Discussing results, side effects and potential sources of pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment alongside RU58841 and other treatments such as Minoxidil and finasteride.
Some users of RU-58841 report cardiovascular symptoms like heart palpitations and chest tightness, which may be linked to its metabolites causing lung disease. The safety of RU-58841 is uncertain due to lack of long-term data and concerns about product purity, especially from gray market sources.
PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment that inhibits mitochondrial pyruvate carriers, increasing lactate dehydrogenase activity and stimulating hair follicle stem cells. In a phase 1 trial, 31% of participants showed over 20% hair density increase with PP405 treatment.
Exploring potential treatments for hair loss, with the focus being on comparing RU58841 and Pyrilutamide. Finasteride, Dutasteride, oral Minoxidil, microneedling, topical Minoxidil, Biotin, Zinc, Vitamin D and Nizoral are also discussed as part of a treatment stack.
The conversation discusses the absorption and effectiveness of PG-free versus PG versions of RU58841, with some users believing PG improves efficacy while others see no difference. Concerns about RU58841's potential side effects on the endocrine system are also mentioned, with one user considering switching to pyrilutamide.
The conversation discusses using a combination of redensyl, capixyl, and procapil (RCP) for hair loss, with some users also mentioning minoxidil and finasteride. Users shared mixed experiences, with some suggesting "RevivHair Max Hair Stimulating Serum" for better results, while others reported no noticeable effects from using products like The Ordinary Multi-Peptide Serum.
RU58841 and Minoxidil can cause heart-related side effects like chest pain and heart racing. Pyrilutamide is suggested as a safer alternative, though it's new and costly.
PP405 shows some hair growth after 4 weeks, but results are debated and expectations should be tempered. Some users compare it to minoxidil or finasteride, questioning its effectiveness and commercialization timeline.
This user has conducted data scraping of 365 Reddit posts on the hairloss drug Pyrilutamide over the last year to analyse efficacy and side effects. The findings, which are available in a 19 page report with graphs, suggest that 22% of Pyrilutamide users experience positive results while 63% experience symptoms. A larger analytics project is proposed for other drugs with enough demand.
A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.
The conversation discusses purchasing experimental hair loss treatments KX-826, AHK-Cu, and PTD-DBM, with the user already using Minoxidil and having side effects from Finasteride. Concerns about the legitimacy of certain suppliers and the authenticity of products like pp405 are also mentioned.
KX-826 failed Phase III trials due to high placebo effects, patient compliance issues, COVID-19 side effects, and detection method deviations. KX-826 is now marketed as a cosmetic and approved for combination with Minoxidil.
RU58841 and Pyrilutamide (Kx-826) are both topical anti-androgens, but neither is effective for hair regrowth. RU58841 has more anecdotal support, while Pyrilutamide has progressed further in trials, though both have limitations.
PP405 is seen as a potential breakthrough for converting vellus hairs to terminal hairs, with users expressing both hope and skepticism. It is compared to treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, with discussions on side effects and marketing concerns.
RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.
People are waiting for KX-826 (Pyrilutamide) Phase 2 data to decide on hair loss treatments, with some considering finasteride or minoxidil in the meantime. Pyrilutamide is seen as a potentially stronger and safer alternative to finasteride, but concerns about side effects and availability remain.
PP405 shows promise in hair regrowth, with 31% of participants experiencing over 20% increase in hair density after 8 weeks. Phase 3 trials are expected in 2026, with potential market availability by 2029-2031.
The conversation discusses the lack of public information on the chemical structure of PP405, a hair loss treatment, and the challenges of synthesizing it without a patent. It also explores a patent related to hydrogen-based topical formulations for reducing oxidative stress and inflammation.
PP405 is expected to finish Phase 2 trials in late 2025, with potential market availability around 2028-2029 if all goes well. Current treatments like finasteride and minoxidil are still popular, while new options like KX-826 and Breezula are anticipated soon.
A user is seeing good results with RU58841 for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and thicker hair. They plan to use pumpkin seed oil as a solvent to avoid water content, which they believe reduces the effectiveness of anti-androgens.
OP used oral Dutasteride and Minoxidil but saw significant improvement only after adding PRP treatments. PRP sessions every 4 months maintained the results, though it is expensive.
PP405 is expected to be on the market between 2027 and 2030, with phase 3 trials starting in 2026. There is skepticism about its fast-tracking due to its cosmetic nature, and it may appear on the gray market sooner.
PP405 is criticized for overhyped claims and cherry-picked data, with doubts about its effectiveness compared to minoxidil and finasteride. Many users express skepticism, emphasizing the need for more comprehensive trial results.
The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.
PP405 is moving to late-stage trials, showing potential for hair regrowth, with 31% of male patients experiencing a 20% increase in hair density. Veradermics is developing an oral minoxidil version, and there is interest in combining treatments for better results.
The conversation discusses arranging an interview with the developers of RU58841 to clarify its safety and reasons for halted research, with some users expressing concerns about potential risks and others citing financial reasons for the discontinuation of studies. Specific treatments mentioned include RU58841, minoxidil, and finasteride.
The conversation is about finding a reliable Chinese source for pyrilutamide or RU58841, ideally with a third-party Certificate of Analysis from Janoshik Analytical. The user is seeking recommendations for these hair loss treatments.
The user experienced gynecomastia from finasteride, used raloxifene to treat it, and is now taking both without new gyno symptoms but also without hair regrowth. They are seeking others' experiences with this combination and its effects on hair.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of adding RCP (redensyl, capixyl, procapil) to a hair loss treatment regimen that includes minoxidil and finasteride. Users share experiences, suggesting RCP may not be as effective as minoxidil, but could be useful for creating topical solutions.