The conversation discusses GT20029, a compound by Kintor Pharma that degrades androgen receptors and is in trials, with potential as a hair loss cure. Another promising treatment mentioned is an antibody that blocks prolactin and has shown positive results in macaques.
A group buy for hair loss treatments including Harmine 19a, TM5614, Abiraterone Acetate, and others. A compound, BMS-202, that can potentially reverse gray hair is also mentioned.
A user is treating hair loss with Dutasteride, Minoxidil, RU58841, Derminator 2, Vitamin D, Biotin, and Zinc. After 6 months, there's no significant visual improvement, but the user feels less insecure about Retrograde Alopecia.
The conversation discusses the approval of Kintor Pharmaceutical's AR-PROTAC (GT20029) for clinical trials in China for acne and androgenic alopecia. One user expresses optimism about new treatments being developed and seeks clarification on how the new drug works, specifically if it temporarily degrades the AR protein to reduce DHT sensitivity in hair follicles.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
The conversation is about a user trying to fund lab testing for RU58841 to verify its legitimacy, as there are doubts about its effectiveness. Some users express skepticism about RU58841, suggesting alternatives like KX-826.
The user has been using Minoxidil and finasteride with success and is now trying Dualgen-5R with retinoic acid but without finasteride, along with microneedling. They plan to share results in 5-6 months.
A participant using Veradermics VDPHL01, an extended-release oral minoxidil, experienced significant hair regrowth from Norwood 6 to Norwood 3V without side effects. They plan to use dutasteride after the treatment to maintain results.
ABS-201 shows promise for male hair regrowth by blocking the prolactin receptor, with higher expected efficacy than current treatments. The discussion also covers dosing differences between macaques and humans for hmi115, highlighting a significant dosage disparity.
A 17-year-old improved his hairline using minoxidil and derma stamping, planning to start finasteride at 18. He received advice on dosing and potential side effects to maintain results.
KX826 is considered a legitimate option for those who cannot use finasteride or dutasteride, but many users report it as ineffective compared to RU58841. RU58841 is favored by some due to anecdotal evidence of effectiveness, despite the lack of published clinical data.
TDM-105795 showed promising hair growth results, with higher efficacy than placebo and minimal side effects. It activates dormant hair follicle stem cells and may maintain gains without immediate loss, unlike minoxidil.
RU58841 worsened hair condition, causing thinning and unusual patterns. The user stopped using it two months ago but hasn't seen recovery, and there's speculation about androgen receptor upregulation.
PP405 is a promising experimental topical treatment for alopecia that reactivates dormant hair follicles by targeting cellular energy, with large-scale trials planned for 2026. While it shows potential, it cannot regenerate permanently destroyed follicles, making hair transplants the only guaranteed solution for advanced baldness currently.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody drug, is in phase 1 and 2 trials for different conditions, but its availability on the gray market is unlikely due to high production costs.
PP405 shows promise in hair loss treatment, but stem cell therapy using adipose-derived stem cells and ATP also successfully reversed androgenetic alopecia in mice. Stem cell therapy is costly, and some doubt the effectiveness of PP405 based on press releases.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. Anageninc stopped selling KX-826 (Pyrilutamide) due to a cease and desist letter from Kintor, but this may indicate promising study results and a potential 2024 release.
A 16-year-old started using topical finasteride, minoxidil, and dermapen for hair regrowth, along with natural DHT blockers. Advice given includes being patient and considering waiting until 18-21 to use finasteride.
Stemson raised $15M for hair cloning, with hopes it becomes a reality in 10-20 years. Users are hopeful and discuss using Minoxidil and finasteride in the meantime.
CRISPR treatments for blood disorders have been approved, leading to discussions about its potential for treating hair loss (AGA). A study showed that editing a gene related to DHT sensitivity could lead to hair regrowth, suggesting CRISPR may eventually be used for AGA, but it's expected to be expensive and not soon available.
HMI-115, a newly discovered hair loss treatment that could potentially be effective for those with diffuse thinning and telogen effluvium. It is based on prolactin receptor antagonist signaling and has already undergone Phase I trials in women, with potential commercialization by 2027.
A 16-year-old using topical finasteride and minoxidil for 3.5 months to treat hair loss. They're seeing progress, despite continued shedding, and plan to start using dutasteride at 18.
Stem cell-related treatments and drugs like RCGD423 and WAY are being tested for hair growth. Clinics are conducting tests on patients who haven't had previous treatments.
A user shared a discount code for RU58841 from Anagen Inc, which some users find effective for hair loss without side effects. Another user expressed skepticism about the safety of RU58841 due to limited research.
User starts Nuclear Stack treatment for hair loss, including Dutasteride, Minoxidil, RU58841, Derminator 2, and supplements. Seeks advice on storing and dosing RU58841.
A human trial involving verteporfin for hair regeneration, with the results showing some regrowth of 1-2 hairs in an area where a follicular unit was extracted. The conversation also suggested that future studies should involve higher doses and more frequent injections.
PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment that inhibits mitochondrial pyruvate carriers, increasing lactate dehydrogenase activity and stimulating hair follicle stem cells. In a phase 1 trial, 31% of participants showed over 20% hair density increase with PP405 treatment.