The conversation is about determining which type of Saw Palmetto, either Chamaerops humilis or Serenoa repens, is effective for inhibiting the 5 alpha reductase enzyme related to hair loss. Specific treatments mentioned are Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
Akinfenrawr experienced negative side effects from oral finasteride and RU58841, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They discuss various options, including raloxifene, oral dutasteride, liposomal finasteride, Breezula, Pyrilutamide, SM04554, and sulforaphane, but have concerns about efficacy, availability, and cost.
Dutasteride may inhibit androgen receptors in addition to reducing DHT, potentially explaining its effectiveness over finasteride for hair loss. Concerns about its impact on muscle growth are debated, with some suggesting no significant effects.
The conversation discusses why there are no FDA-approved NSAAs like RU58841 on the market, despite their potential superiority to 5AR inhibitors like finasteride. It explores the effectiveness of treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss.
The experiences of users who have used RU58841 to treat hair loss, including both positive and negative effects. Some side effects reported include chest pain, joint pain in the hands, tinnitus, and increased heartbeat.
The user was rejected from participating in a clinical trial for an extended-release oral Minoxidil due to having rheumatoid arthritis, despite initially being accepted. They had stopped using Dutasteride and Minoxidil to qualify but continued using other treatments like RU58841 and red light therapy.
Alternatives to finasteride for hair loss include minoxidil, alfatrodial, fluridil, pyrilutamide, and Nizoral. These treatments may not be as effective as finasteride but can help slow hair loss progression.
Caffeine may promote hair growth and potentially inhibit 5-α-reductase activity in hair follicles, but its effectiveness and systemic impact remain unclear. Users discuss using topical caffeine solutions, with some experiencing no side effects compared to finasteride.
Blocking DHT may slow down aging and improve skin, with users reporting positive effects from finasteride. Minoxidil and RU58841 are also mentioned as treatments.
RU58841 was the only treatment that slowed hair loss and reduced irritation for a DUPA sufferer after trying finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride with no success. The user continues using 6mg oral minoxidil, 0.5mg dutasteride, and an 8% RU58841 solution.
The user is taking finasteride for hair loss and is considering adding Resveratrol and Bio-Quercetin supplements for general wellbeing. They are concerned about potential interactions affecting the effectiveness of finasteride.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of reducing DHT for hair loss treatment and explores alternative approaches like reducing androgen receptor sensitivity. Specific treatments mentioned include finasteride, dutasteride, pyrilutamide (KX-826), GT20029, and RU58841.
Topical androgen receptor antagonists may not be necessary if 5-AR inhibitors like finasteride or dutasteride effectively reduce DHT levels. Combining a 5-AR inhibitor with a topical androgen antagonist could potentially enhance treatment, but oral use of androgen antagonists is too risky due to severe side effects.
Concerns about the effectiveness of DHT inhibitors like finasteride and minoxidil due to potential polymorph issues. Experts suggest these concerns are largely unfounded, especially compared to rare cases like ritonavir.
A 19-year-old concerned about long-term effects of 5AR inhibitors on physical appearance. They have used finasteride and plan to try dutasteride or RU58841; responses suggest improved skin, hair, and confidence.
GHK-Cu is a potent inhibitor of the type 1 5-alpha reductase enzyme in hair follicles, which may reduce hair loss without the side effects associated with type 2 5-alpha reductase inhibitors. The user previously experienced side effects with 5-alpha reductase inhibitors and is considering GHK-Cu as an alternative.
Exploring different treatments for hair loss, such as cosmeRNA and HMI-115 which are small interference messenger RNA that inhibits the DHT receptor and an antibody that binds to the prolactin (PRL) receptor respectively; and researching mechanism and environment of hyperresponders.
Pyrilutamide is a selective AR antagonist with a high binding affinity, making it effective in competing with DHT for androgen receptors. The 1% concentration is more effective than the 0.5%, but the latter may suffice for mild hair loss; the drug is considered a good option for those avoiding 5AR blockers due to side effects.
RU58841 slowed hair loss for a DUPA sufferer after other treatments like finasteride, dutasteride, and minoxidil failed. Some users reported side effects with RU58841, while others did not experience any.
RU58841's side effects may be exaggerated due to anxiety, with some users experiencing no issues and others reporting symptoms like chest pain. RU58841, minoxidil, and finasteride are used for hair loss treatment, with varying individual reactions.
An 18-year-old experienced severe side effects, including heart palpitations and high blood pressure, after using RU58841 once, leading to a referral to cardiology for suspected left ventricular hypertrophy. The user regrets using RU58841 and seeks advice on recovery, while others suggest preexisting conditions or genetic predispositions may be factors.
Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.
The conversation discusses concerns about a new rule affecting orders of hair loss treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841. Users are worried about the impact on their ability to obtain these products.
The conversation discusses alternatives to RU58841 for hair loss treatment, with suggestions including topical spironolactone, peppermint and rosemary oils, and saw palmetto. The user also considers ordering RU58841 from China but finds it too expensive.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841. HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody drug, is in phase 1 and 2 trials for different conditions, but its availability on the gray market is unlikely due to high production costs.
The potential risks of long-term use of Dutasteride and how it may be linked to elevated liver enzymes, cholesterol levels, and decreased testosterone. Alternative treatments such as Finasteride and RU58841 were also discussed.
The user has been using finasteride for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841. They ask about RU58841's effectiveness, potential heart side effects, duration of action, dosage increase over time, transitioning to GT20029, and where to find the liquid form.
RU58841 caused chest tightness, throat irritation, and headaches, leading the user to stop its use. The user plans to restart with a lower dose if symptoms fully disappear but remains cautious due to anxiety and side effects.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841. Concerns are raised about the lack of studies on RU58841 and its potential effects.