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RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.

Finasteride can cause side effects like erectile dysfunction and decreased libido, possibly due to increased estradiol from testosterone aromatization, especially in those with higher body fat. Side effects vary widely and may also be influenced by genetic factors or neurosteroid inhibition.

The conversation discusses the differences between PG/Ethanol and KB solutions for RU58841 application, focusing on potential scalp irritation. KB solution is suggested for those allergic to PG, though both contain ethanol which can dry the scalp.

RU58841 worsened hair condition, causing thinning and unusual patterns. The user stopped using it two months ago but hasn't seen recovery, and there's speculation about androgen receptor upregulation.

The safety and effectiveness of RU-58841 as a hair loss treatment, with some users reporting side effects like chest pains, while others had positive results. The original research on RU-58841 was likely stopped due to financial issues, not safety concerns.

The conversation discusses GT20029, a compound by Kintor Pharma that degrades androgen receptors and is in trials, with potential as a hair loss cure. Another promising treatment mentioned is an antibody that blocks prolactin and has shown positive results in macaques.

The user is concerned about high prolactin levels and low testosterone levels after stopping finasteride for three weeks. They are considering resuming finasteride but are worried it might further increase prolactin levels.

A husband experiencing hair loss is considering treatments like topical minoxidil and finasteride but is concerned about their effects on his pregnant wife and future child. Alternatives suggested include oral finasteride, which is considered safe if hands are washed after use, and exploring natural methods like oils.

The user is asking if it's safe to use a glass dropper from a finished RU58841 product with a new RU58841 product and if cleaning it with water is sufficient. They are concerned about the quality of the plastic dropper that came with the new product.

KX-826 initially improves hair growth but declines after 24 weeks, with mild itching as a side effect. Combining it with minoxidil and finasteride may improve results, but long-term effectiveness is uncertain.

The conversation is about the safety of using hair loss products like Minoxidil and finasteride while trying to conceive and after birth. The user is seeking advice on whether these products are safe for the baby and if any men in similar situations can share their experiences.

Reducing the dose of RU58841 from 25mg to 7.5mg topically helped minimize heart palpitations. Users discussed the cardiac effects of RU58841 and minoxidil, noting that no treatment is completely free of side effects.

KX-826/pyrilutamide is undergoing an additional one-year safety and efficacy trial in China after a six-month study. Some participants speculate on the reasons for the extended trial and discuss the potential of other treatments.

The user is experiencing irritation from using PG with RU58841 and is seeking alternative solutions like K&B in the UK. They report redness, itchiness, and flaky skin from the current treatment.

An 18-year-old male with hair loss is considering starting finasteride but is concerned about potential side effects like gynecomastia due to his prolactin levels. He seeks guidance on whether his bloodwork indicates it's safe to begin treatment.

GT20029 is a topical treatment that degrades androgen receptors to prevent hair thinning and loss, potentially offering fewer side effects than systemic treatments like finasteride. Concerns include its impact on hair texture and potential systemic effects, with market availability speculated in 3 to 5 years.

L. reuteri, a probiotic, is being explored for its potential benefits in treating androgenic alopecia, possibly enhancing finasteride's effects and reducing inflammation. The user combines this with finasteride, oral minoxidil, and other supplements, noting some improvement in hair loss.

The conversation discusses using P5P (Vitamin B6) supplements to reduce elevated Prolactin levels and concerns about its potential effect on increasing DHT levels. The user is not currently using finasteride or any anti-androgens.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically RU58841, with mentions of side effects from finasteride and dutasteride. Alternatives like Pyri, KX-826, and Breezula are also mentioned.

A 29-year-old woman with genetic hair loss started using 0.5 dutasteride a week ago and has noticed increased shedding, no sexual side effects, and less oily skin. She plans to provide updates and is not concerned about potential birth defects as she doesn't plan to have more children.

Female considering adding topical anti-androgen, seeks advice on RU58841 or pyrilutamid's binding affinity compared to spironolactone.

Long-term RU58841 users discuss its effectiveness, with some finding it not worth the cost compared to other treatments like Dutasteride and Minoxidil. One user experienced side effects from a chemical company product, while another is regrowing hair after stopping RU58841.

Women experienced severe reactions, including Topical Steroid Withdrawal (TSW), from using Winlevi (Clascoterone 1%) on their faces. Concerns were raised about the potential risks of higher concentrations, especially for hair loss treatment.

Kintor Pharmaceutical's Phase 2 results with the drug Pyrilutamide, a potential alternative to 5-ARI drugs like Finasteride and Dutasteride but without the side effects. It could be used in combination with other topical treatments such as Minoxidil. The safety of the drug has been demonstrated in 6 months of use, however there are still questions about long term efficacy and systemic absorption.

The conversation discusses using RU58841 as a topical treatment for hair loss, with some users reporting no systemic issues. The original poster is considering RU58841 due to limited progress with dutasteride and oral minoxidil.

FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

Experimenting with trestolone as a treatment for hair loss in an attempt to avoid DHT-related treatments such as finasteride and dutasteride, and discussing the potential effects of its receptor selectivity on the androgen receptors in the scalp.

A user (seblt) who has had side effects from finasteride, minoxidil and RU58841 but is now trying pyrilutamide as a last resort, with other users providing advice and support. They have already seen some baby hairs growing after 10-14 days of treatment and will provide updates in 1-2 weeks.

RU58841 is discussed for hair loss treatment, with mixed reviews on its effectiveness and side effects. Users mention using it in an ethanol/PG solution and combining it with other treatments like dutasteride.