RU58841 is used by some for hair loss when finasteride and minoxidil are ineffective. Users report mixed results, with some experiencing side effects like chest pain and mood changes.
The conversation discusses the use of RU58841 for hair loss, with concerns about its legality in Germany and potential legal consequences. Alternatives like finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, with some users questioning the effectiveness and safety of RU58841.
Fluridil may decrease the number of androgen receptors in hair follicles by up to 95%. This suggests a different action mechanism from other non-steroidal antiandrogens like RU58841, indicating they might be used together.
The conversation discusses buying RU58841 directly from a Chinese supplier for cost savings. It mentions that companies like Anageninc and Actifolic do the same.
User experienced shortness of breath, high blood pressure, red eyes, and eye floaters after using RU58841 for hair loss. They warn others to avoid RU58841 and stick to finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride.
Some hair loss may be linked to chromosome 20, which isn't affected by DHT blockers like finasteride. Treatments like minoxidil, microneedling, and genetic testing are suggested, but their effectiveness for this type of hair loss is uncertain.
The user mixes their own RU58841 solution and found that increasing the ethanol content improved absorption and reduced scalp itching. A study on minoxidil showed that penetration increased with higher ethanol concentrations, reaching maximum penetration at 90% ethanol.
After a year on dutasteride and oral minoxidil, the user experienced significant hair regrowth, improving from Norwood 2 to almost Norwood 1. They added RU58841, microneedling, rosemary oil, GHK-Cu, and annurca apple supplement to their regimen and are now noticing hair loss in the temple area.
Replicel's results were delayed, but Shiseido might share data at BioJapan on October 11. Users are hopeful for new treatments like RCH-01, potentially eliminating the need for finasteride or minoxidil.
A user discussed their hair transplant progress and mentioned using 1mg Finasteride, 5% Topical Minoxidil, and recently starting 5% RU58841. They are seeking advice on whether to use RU58841 at month 4 post-transplant.
RU58841 is discussed as a treatment that stops scalp itching when used with finasteride or dutasteride. The user is considering trying RU58841 due to persistent itching despite using the "big 3" treatments.
RU58841 is a controversial hair loss treatment with mixed reviews; some users report success, often in combination with other treatments like finasteride or minoxidil, while others experience side effects like chest pain. The treatment's discontinuation is speculated to be due to patent expiration and lack of profitability, despite some users continuing to use it as part of a broader regimen.
Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) impacts various skin conditions, including Androgenetic alopecia and seborrheic dermatitis, by causing overactivity in sebaceous glands. Topical medications Tacrolimus and Clobetasol can reduce these inflammatory conditions, and treatments like RU58841, Minoxidil, and Finasteride may also be beneficial.
The conversation discusses various theories of hair loss, including DHT sensitivity and genetic factors, with the user willing to use themselves for research due to having a hair loss gene but different hair loss patterns compared to their brothers. Specific treatments were not mentioned in the provided text.
RU58841 caused chest tightness, throat irritation, and headaches, leading the user to stop its use. The user plans to restart with a lower dose if symptoms fully disappear but remains cautious due to anxiety and side effects.
The user switched from finasteride to dutasteride due to side effects and is experiencing fewer side effects with dutasteride, though some scalp itching has occurred. Blood tests show elevated testosterone and estrogen, low DHT, and normal liver and cholesterol levels, leading the user to feel confident in the long-term benefits of dutasteride for hair regrowth.
An arthritis drug, baricitinib, is discussed as a potential treatment for autoimmune alopecia, not androgenetic alopecia. Ritlecitinib is also mentioned as a possible treatment for scarring alopecia.
The conversation discusses the mechanism of action of alfatradiol (17 alpha estradiol) in treating hair loss. It explores theories that it either inhibits 5 alpha reductase to prevent T->DHT conversion or aromatizes scalp T into 17-alpha-estradiol to save hair.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, mentioning minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, VDPHL, GT20029, and follicle cloning as potential solutions. It also reveals that the discussion about PP405 was an April Fool's joke.
RU58841 for hair loss, discussing sources, application methods, and carriers like PG + ethanol or liquid minoxidil. Users share experiences with premixed solutions and powder forms, noting price differences and storage importance.
VDPHL-01 is essentially a slow-release oral minoxidil, which is already known to work for hair growth. The formulation includes other ingredients like Medrogestone, Valproic acid, Setipiprant, and Cetirizine, but their effectiveness and necessity are questioned.
A potential non-invasive topical treatment targeting the WNT Signaling Pathway for hair regeneration is being researched, with positive results on human hair follicle cells. Current effective treatments for hair loss include Minoxidil, finasteride, and hair transplantation.
High DHEA levels may contribute to hair loss by increasing DHT in hair follicles, potentially explaining why finasteride is ineffective for some. Treatments like high-dose dutasteride and RU58841 are suggested, but the underlying cause, such as adrenal issues, should be investigated.
Finasteride is effective for DHT/AR-driven hair loss but not for chromosome 20-driven cases, where treatments like minoxidil, prostaglandin analogs, and low-level laser therapy may be more beneficial. Genetic testing can help determine the underlying cause of hair loss to tailor treatment effectively.
Hair growth can be induced without stopping DHT, as seen with Minoxidil. HMI115 may work by promoting follicle growth, not targeting the root cause of hair loss (DHT).
The user shared a 4-month update on their hair regrowth journey using finasteride, minoxidil, and microneedling, reporting significant progress and styling ability. They emphasized persistence, shared their regimen details, and addressed side effects like weaker erections and blurry vision, which improved with lifestyle changes.
GT20029 is a new hair loss treatment in Phase 3 trials in China, using PROTAC technology to target androgen receptors, potentially with fewer side effects than finasteride and minoxidil. VDPHL01, a second-generation minoxidil, is also mentioned as potentially more effective.
The discussion is about using ASCEplus HRLB exosomes for hair loss treatment, which combines 10 billion exosomes with growth factors, nutrients, biotin, and copper tripeptide. The treatment is expensive and typically administered via scalp injections, but in Europe, it's done with microneedling.
RU58841, oral and topical minoxidil, finasteride, and ketoconazole shampoo led to significant hair regrowth, though some suspect a hair transplant. Concerns about RU58841's side effects, like anxiety and heart issues, were discussed.