RU58841 is used by some for hair loss when finasteride and minoxidil are ineffective. Users report mixed results, with some experiencing side effects like chest pain and mood changes.
The conversation is about concerns regarding the safety of using RU-58841 and oral Minoxidil for hair loss, particularly potential heart-related side effects. The user is using a topical solution with RU-58841 and Minoxidil, along with a pill containing Dutasteride, Finasteride, and oral Minoxidil, and is seeking advice on the regimen.
Minoxidil may age skin by slowing collagen synthesis, but using collagen peptides and a basic skincare routine might counteract this. Foam minoxidil could reduce systemic absorption and avoid alcohol-related side effects.
Long-term RU58841 users discuss its effectiveness, with some finding it not worth the cost compared to other treatments like Dutasteride and Minoxidil. One user experienced side effects from a chemical company product, while another is regrowing hair after stopping RU58841.
Alfatradiol is considered a mild treatment for hair loss, often used alongside other treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride. Users report it helps maintain hair but is not effective for regrowth on its own.
The conversation discusses GT20029, a new topical drug for hair loss and acne without notable side effects, which has been accepted for investigational use in China. Some users express skepticism about the legitimacy of the company and the potential for other drugs like RU58841 to be developed due to patent expiration and lack of profitability.
A combination of pyrilutamide, minoxidil, and alfatradiol is proposed as an effective alternative to finasteride for treating mild to moderate hair loss, claiming to stabilize hair loss and improve thickness without finasteride's side effects. Some users are skeptical about the effectiveness and approval of these treatments, while others are interested in trying them due to finasteride's side effects.
The conversation is about choosing an anti-androgen for hair loss treatment, with options being alfatradiol and pyrilutamide. Alfatradiol is considered a better choice due to its established use, while pyrilutamide is more experimental.
The conversation discusses the mechanism of action of alfatradiol (17 alpha estradiol) in treating hair loss. It explores theories that it either inhibits 5 alpha reductase to prevent T->DHT conversion or aromatizes scalp T into 17-alpha-estradiol to save hair.
A 27-year-old male is experiencing a recurring pattern of hair loss after 5 months of using oral minoxidil and finasteride, despite initial success. He is considering using topical androgen receptor blockers like RU58841, pyrilutamide, or clascoterone to address potential androgen receptor hypersensitivity.
Minoxidil's effectiveness varies due to genetic differences in the SULT1A1 enzyme, affecting how well it converts to its active form, minoxidil sulfate. Hyper-responders may experience rapid hair growth and increased side effects, such as pericardial effusion, even at low doses.
A 26-year-old male has been using Redensyl for nearly two months without progress and recently switched to minoxidil. He is also taking multivitamins with biotin and using ciclopirox shampoo for dandruff.
The user is using Dutasteride, Nizoral, and RU58841 for hair loss and is considering mixing RU58841 with Stemoxydine for better scalp coverage but is concerned about the potential degradation of RU58841 when mixed with a water-based solution. They are seeking advice on the feasibility of this mixture.
The user switched from finasteride and topical minoxidil to dutasteride and oral minoxidil, questioning the effectiveness and safety of continuing RU58841. They experienced hair loss improvement initially but are now considering stopping RU58841 due to cost and safety concerns.
An 18-year-old shared a 5-month hair transformation using RU58841 and minoxidil, reporting no side effects and crediting most regrowth to minoxidil. Opinions on RU58841 are mixed, with some users and a YouTuber moving away from it due to side effects and lack of studies.
Verteporfin shows promise in donor hair regeneration after 84 days. Combining Finasteride, Minoxidil, and Pyrilutamide with unlimited hair transplants is seen as a potential near-cure for hair loss.
The potential risks of long-term use of Dutasteride and how it may be linked to elevated liver enzymes, cholesterol levels, and decreased testosterone. Alternative treatments such as Finasteride and RU58841 were also discussed.
The conversation discusses using retinol to enhance minoxidil's effectiveness for hair loss, with a user considering The Ordinary's 0.5% retinol and seeking advice on azelaic acid concentration. Other users suggest using tretinoin instead and consider pre-formulated products combining minoxidil, tretinoin, and azelaic acid, but the original poster has not seen improvement from dermarolling.
RU58841 worsened hair condition, causing thinning and unusual patterns. The user stopped using it two months ago but hasn't seen recovery, and there's speculation about androgen receptor upregulation.
The conversation discusses maintaining hair regrowth using minoxidil and finasteride and whether using gt20029, which degrades androgen receptors, would affect this. Fluridil, a similar treatment, can disable over 90% of active androgen receptors.
Trioxidil's effectiveness is questioned, with users suggesting it might be a marketing gimmick. Alternatives like Lipogaine and MSM are discussed, with some users sharing positive experiences with combining treatments like minoxidil and nanoxidil.
A user shared their 11-month experience using a 272 diode red light hat for hair loss, noting decent results despite inconsistent use and no medication. Another user suggested that real treatment like minoxidil or finasteride is necessary for long-term hair maintenance.
The user is currently using 0.025% Pantostin but plans to switch to 0.1% Alfatradiol. They will also use high-dose Kx826, high-dose Minoxidil, and aggressive microneedling for hair regrowth.
The user experienced hair regrowth using a combination of Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841, with Minoxidil used initially and the other treatments added later. The user believes the combination of Finasteride and RU58841 contributed to the regrowth, with RU sourced from MVsupplement.
The user stopped using finasteride due to side effects and switched to RU58841, which seems to be working for hair regrowth. They are considering RU58841 and minoxidil as long-term treatments, while others discuss the safety and effectiveness of these options.
Oral minoxidil can cause a stronger heartbeat, which may lessen over time, but if it persists or worsens, consulting a professional is advised. Reducing the dose or switching to a topical form might help.
A user in Egypt is seeking alternatives to oral minoxidil, which is banned there, after stopping topical minoxidil due to concerns for their cat's safety. Suggestions include drinking diluted topical minoxidil or making homemade minoxidil tablets, but these methods carry significant risks and are not recommended.
A user is seeking a new source for RU58841 in the EU after their previous supplier stopped selling it. They mention considering Anagen, Actifolic, Minoxidilmax, and rudirect, and are using a treatment mixing RU58841 with Stemoxydine and Alfatradiol.