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User asks if HMI 115 hasn't done phase 1 for AGA in humans. Conversation includes treatments Min, Fin, and RU.

The conversation discusses the use of RU58841 for hair loss, with concerns about its legality in Germany and potential legal consequences. Alternatives like finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, with some users questioning the effectiveness and safety of RU58841.

AH-001 is a new topical treatment designed to degrade androgen receptors, targeting the root cause of androgenetic alopecia without the side effects of oral treatments like finasteride. It has shown a strong safety profile and good local tolerability in early trials.

The user experienced side effects from various hair loss treatments, including RU58841, finasteride, and dutasteride. They are uncertain about what treatment to try next.

A user applied the 8T3 product for hair loss, targeting LPP and AGA, and plans to update on its effectiveness. The product uses a saline buffered phosphate vehicle, suitable for those intolerant to ethanolic vehicles.

The conversation discusses GT20029, a compound by Kintor Pharma that degrades androgen receptors and is in trials, with potential as a hair loss cure. Another promising treatment mentioned is an antibody that blocks prolactin and has shown positive results in macaques.

GT20029 and pyrilutamide are both androgen antagonists but work differently; GT20029 degrades the androgen receptor, while pyrilutamide blocks DHT from binding. GT20029 is expected to have similar efficacy to CosmeRNA.

The conversation discusses the variability in effectiveness of medications, including finasteride, and questions whether different manufacturers impact results. The user suggests sharing successful brands to help others identify effective options.

Switching generic finasteride manufacturers can reduce side effects while maintaining effectiveness. Different fillers in generics may affect bioavailability and cause varying side effects.

RU58841 may cause heart-related side effects like palpitations and chest pain, though evidence is mostly anecdotal. Users report mixed experiences, with some stopping due to side effects and others using it without issues, but concerns about its safety and sourcing remain.

User experienced shortness of breath, high blood pressure, red eyes, and eye floaters after using RU58841 for hair loss. They warn others to avoid RU58841 and stick to finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride.

PP405 (Everychem 3HP) may help with hair regrowth, with mixed user experiences. Users often combine it with minoxidil and finasteride, but there are concerns about its efficacy and side effects.

The conversation is about finding a reliable Chinese source for pyrilutamide or RU58841, ideally with a third-party Certificate of Analysis from Janoshik Analytical. The user is seeking recommendations for these hair loss treatments.

RU58841 lacks FDA approval due to financial and safety concerns, including potential cardiological side effects. The company abandoned further research, and users report adverse effects like heart palpitations and gynecomastia.

The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.

GT20029 is discussed as a potential treatment for androgenetic hair loss by targeting androgen receptors, unlike finasteride which reduces DHT broadly. Concerns include its effectiveness, genetic variations in androgen receptors, and availability, with some skepticism about its potential as a true alternative.

The conversation discusses the sale of a premixed KY19382 solution for research purposes, highlighting previous unsuccessful group buys and the formulation process. Prices and purchasing options for KY19382 solutions and powder are provided.

A user is seeing good results with RU58841 for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and thicker hair. They plan to use pumpkin seed oil as a solvent to avoid water content, which they believe reduces the effectiveness of anti-androgens.

Users discussed experiences with Everychem's solution similar to PP405 for hair loss, noting some positive results like increased hair thickness and new growth. There was skepticism about the product's legitimacy and safety, with some users reporting early signs of effectiveness and others expressing concerns about the lack of evidence and safety profiles.

User asks if spironolactone can stack with finasteride and pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment. They question why spironolactone is associated with feminizing effects, while RU/pyri/fluridil, which work similarly, are not.

RU58841 users report mixed results, with some experiencing no benefits and others noting regrowth but potential side effects. Many prefer finasteride and minoxidil due to better-studied safety profiles.

Exosomes combined with fractional picosecond laser treatment were effective in treating androgenetic alopecia and promoting repigmentation in white hair patches. The role of exosomes in hair repigmentation, particularly in conditions like poliosis, is not well-studied.

The conversation discusses the safety and trustworthiness of ordering RU58841 from Lyphar Biotech in China, with a focus on pricing and reliability. The user is seeking advice on whether to proceed with the purchase or consider alternative sources.

PP405 shows initial promise for treating androgenetic alopecia, with safety confirmed in early trials, but skepticism remains due to limited data. Further trials are needed to determine its true efficacy and potential market impact.

PP405 updates are seen as vague and lacking substance, causing frustration among users. Some users report positive effects from using minoxidil and dutasteride, while others remain skeptical about new treatments.

The conversation discusses buying RU58841 directly from a Chinese supplier for cost savings. It mentions that companies like Anageninc and Actifolic do the same.

The user has been using finasteride for hair loss and is considering adding RU58841. They ask about RU58841's effectiveness, potential heart side effects, duration of action, dosage increase over time, transitioning to GT20029, and where to find the liquid form.

The conversation discusses the absorption and effectiveness of PG-free versus PG versions of RU58841, with some users believing PG improves efficacy while others see no difference. Concerns about RU58841's potential side effects on the endocrine system are also mentioned, with one user considering switching to pyrilutamide.

The user was rejected from participating in a clinical trial for an extended-release oral Minoxidil due to having rheumatoid arthritis, despite initially being accepted. They had stopped using Dutasteride and Minoxidil to qualify but continued using other treatments like RU58841 and red light therapy.

RU58841 is used by some for hair loss, with mixed results; one user reported success with no side effects, while another experienced lung and heart issues. RU58841 is often sourced from third-party vendors and used alongside treatments like dutasteride and minoxidil.