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The conversation discusses a clinical trial for Setipiprant in the US, starting June 29th, with eligibility excluding recent users of minoxidil or finasteride. It encourages informed decision-making before signing up.

The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.

The efficacy of degrading the androgen receptor through dermal application in DP cells, a delivery system for topical drugs that involves dissolving microneedles, and rosemary oil as an alternative anti-androgen.

Comparing the effectiveness of RU58841, Pyrilutamide and CB-03-01 as treatments for hair loss, with people discussing different aspects such as binding affinity, time of inhibition, safety data and cost.

A 22-year-old male experienced hair loss potentially linked to escitalopram, which stopped after switching to vortioxetine. His depressive symptoms improved with continued treatment.

The user applies a topical solution containing minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, retinoic acid, and hydrocortisone to address scalp inflammation and is considering adding cetirizine to the mix. They are calculating the correct amount of cetirizine to add to their formula and have paused this approach to retry oral minoxidil.

The conversation discusses the differences between PG/Ethanol and KB solutions for RU58841 application, focusing on potential scalp irritation. KB solution is suggested for those allergic to PG, though both contain ethanol which can dry the scalp.

User discusses group buy for finerenone, a third-gen mineralocorticoid antagonist for hair loss treatment. Finerenone inhibits TGFb, NOX, and ROS, and improves renal and cardiac function; topical dose should be no more than 10mg per day.

The user is experiencing scalp irritation from using RU58841 with a 70% ethanol and 30% propylene glycol vehicle and is considering switching to a less irritating vehicle, such as 30% ethanol with 70% squalane or emu oil. They are seeking feedback on the effectiveness and irritation levels of these alternative carriers.

The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.

RU58841 is discussed as a treatment that stops scalp itching when used with finasteride or dutasteride. The user is considering trying RU58841 due to persistent itching despite using the "big 3" treatments.

The user has DUPA and suspects autoimmune activity as a cause. They have tried various treatments including finasteride, minoxidil, dutasteride, pyrilutamide, estrogel, hydrocortisone, and clobetasol, and are now seeking a long-term immunosuppressant.

Researching and developing an effective local antagonist to block the androgen receptors for hair loss, as opposed to using DHT synthesis inhibitors that lower serum DHT levels. Several treatments such as CosmeRNA and Pyrilutamide are currently in development or undergoing trials.

RU58841's side effects may be exaggerated due to anxiety, with some users experiencing no issues and others reporting symptoms like chest pain. RU58841, minoxidil, and finasteride are used for hair loss treatment, with varying individual reactions.

Managing estradiol levels while using finasteride. Treatments discussed include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation is about someone switching from Minoxidil and Finasteride to Redensyl, Procapil, and Capixyl serums due to anxiety over potential side effects, and they are inquiring about others' regrowth experiences with these serums. Some doctors in India have prescribed these serums, and the person knows others who are satisfied with the results.

RU58841 is not recommended for use around children due to potential exposure risks. Alternatives like CB-03-01 might be considered, but further research is advised.

The conversation discusses the need for a localized 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that only affects the scalp without systemic side effects, similar to pyrilutamide's approach. Current treatments like topical liposomal finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, but concerns about their systemic effects and lack of research are highlighted.

The conversation discusses why there are no FDA-approved NSAAs like RU58841 on the market, despite their potential superiority to 5AR inhibitors like finasteride. It explores the effectiveness of treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss.

New treatments for AGA are emerging, including pyrilutumide, gt0029, scube3, kx-826, and pp405. Verteporfin is mentioned as a promising option.

Clascoterone cream can be used on the scalp, but it may not be effective due to its dosage. AR antagonists like clascoterone are generally less effective than 5AR inhibitors for hair loss.

Ell-Cranell and Eucapil are discussed as hair loss treatments, with Ell-Cranell being a weak estrogen and DHT inhibitor that may reduce hair loss without systemic side effects. Alfatradiol is the active ingredient in these products.

Spironolactone, finasteride, and dutasteride are discussed for hair maintenance, with concerns about testosterone and side effects like gynecomastia. Spironolactone is noted for use in both bodybuilding and hormone therapy, with low doses considered for minimizing side effects.

User tried topical fin, dut, min, tret, hydrocortisone, microneedling, nizoral, collagen, propidren supplements, and laser helmet for hair loss with slow progress. They ask if topical spironolactone is a safer, effective alternative to RU for suppressing testosterone and treating hair loss in men.

A user discusses switching from RU58841 to Pyrilutamide due to side effects like fatigue, brain fog, and elevated heart rate. They have used dutasteride, finasteride, and minoxidil, and are seeking safer alternatives.

Akinfenrawr experienced negative side effects from oral finasteride and RU58841, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They discuss various options, including raloxifene, oral dutasteride, liposomal finasteride, Breezula, Pyrilutamide, SM04554, and sulforaphane, but have concerns about efficacy, availability, and cost.

RU58841 caused chest tightness, throat irritation, and headaches, leading the user to stop its use. The user plans to restart with a lower dose if symptoms fully disappear but remains cautious due to anxiety and side effects.

An 18-year-old experienced severe side effects, including heart palpitations and high blood pressure, after using RU58841 once, leading to a referral to cardiology for suspected left ventricular hypertrophy. The user regrets using RU58841 and seeks advice on recovery, while others suggest preexisting conditions or genetic predispositions may be factors.

A recent publication suggests that the flavonoids eriocitrin and silymarin may be more effective than finasteride in binding to the enzyme responsible for hair loss. People in the conversation are skeptical about the effectiveness and safety of these flavonoids until tested on humans, and some discuss their personal experiences with other treatments.

RU58841 and Minoxidil can cause heart-related side effects like chest pain and heart racing. Pyrilutamide is suggested as a safer alternative, though it's new and costly.