The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically RU58841, with mentions of side effects from finasteride and dutasteride. Alternatives like Pyri, KX-826, and Breezula are also mentioned.
Hair loss discussion includes finasteride intolerance and questioning if Pyrilutamide is an alternative. Pyrilutamide not commercially available, but may be tolerable if approved since it's not a 5aR inhibitor.
A user stopped using RU58841 after discovering their girlfriend's unplanned pregnancy, expressing concern about potential harm to the baby. Others advised consulting a doctor, waiting for health scans, and considering switching to oral finasteride or natural supplements like saw palmetto.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of RU58841 for hair loss compared to pyrilutamide, which failed to show significant hair regrowth in trials. Some users report personal side effects with RU58841 and question the criteria for success in hair loss treatments.
RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.
Topical pirfenidone is highlighted as an effective anti-inflammatory and anti-fibrotic treatment for hair loss, particularly in addressing perifollicular fibrosis, which may enhance the effectiveness of standard treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. The user also uses calcipotriol, MCT oil, ciclopirox shampoo, and benzoyl peroxide shampoo as part of their regimen.
Topical Finasteride doesn't directly reduce 5ar enzyme on scalp and has the same mechanism as oral, needing to go through the liver. Users debate the accuracy of this information and discuss various studies and experiences.
Users discuss ketoconazole shampoos for hair loss, mentioning Nizoral, selsun blue, and alternatives like prescription strength options and compounded lotions to reduce dryness. Some users suggest using finasteride and minoxidil instead, questioning the cost-benefit of ketoconazole.
An 18-year-old experienced severe side effects, including heart palpitations and high blood pressure, after using RU58841 once, leading to a referral to cardiology for suspected left ventricular hypertrophy. The user regrets using RU58841 and seeks advice on recovery, while others suggest preexisting conditions or genetic predispositions may be factors.
PP405 is progressing rapidly through trials, with mixed opinions on its potential effectiveness. Current treatments like minoxidil and finasteride are still widely discussed, with some users reporting positive results from new formulations.
The GT20029 tincture, a topical androgen receptor degrader, showed significant hair growth and good safety in a China Phase II trial for male androgenetic alopecia (AGA), with the 1% dose twice weekly identified as optimal. The company plans to initiate Phase III trials in China and Phase II in the U.S., and the treatment also shows promise for acne.
Clascoterone phase 3 results show promising improvements in hair count, but concerns about high costs and lack of detailed data remain. Users compare it to existing treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride, expressing skepticism about its accessibility and effectiveness.
A user is experiencing hair thinning and is using a peptide with oleanic acid as a DHT blocker, along with minoxidil, while waiting for topical finasteride. They plan to use a combination of minoxidil, finasteride, dermastamp, ketoconazole, and scalp massages, but are advised to stick to proven treatments like finasteride and minoxidil.
Replicel's results were delayed, but Shiseido might share data at BioJapan on October 11. Users are hopeful for new treatments like RCH-01, potentially eliminating the need for finasteride or minoxidil.
Spironolactone, finasteride, and dutasteride are discussed for hair maintenance, with concerns about testosterone and side effects like gynecomastia. Spironolactone is noted for use in both bodybuilding and hormone therapy, with low doses considered for minimizing side effects.
The conversation is about comparing the effectiveness of fluridil and clascoterone in preventing hair loss and inquiring about their use as standalone treatments. There is a question about the concentration of the fluridil brand for efficacy.
The conversation is about a user trying to fund lab testing for RU58841 to verify its legitimacy, as there are doubts about its effectiveness. Some users express skepticism about RU58841, suggesting alternatives like KX-826.
An 18-year-old experiencing hair loss and seborrheic dermatitis has tried finasteride, dutasteride, and various shampoos without success. They are considering anti-androgens like RU58841 and KX-826 for oil control and dandruff reduction.
The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.
A user plans to create a copper peptide hair serum with GHK-Cu and AHK-Cu, considering adding 5% minoxidil but avoiding finasteride and dutasteride. They seek suggestions for improving the product without complicating it.
Hmi115, a prolactin receptor blocker, showed promise for hair growth, but results from Phase 2 trials have not been published. ABS-201, an AI-based analog, is expected to begin trials in December 2025, while commercialization of treatments like PP-405 is anticipated around 2027.
Concerns about the potential high cost of new hair loss treatments, pp405 and gt20029, were discussed, with some users willing to pay a premium if they are effective. Alternatives like finasteride and minoxidil are mentioned as current, more affordable options, and there is speculation about future generic versions and black market availability.
The user stopped using finasteride due to side effects and switched to RU58841, which seems to be working for hair regrowth. They are considering RU58841 and minoxidil as long-term treatments, while others discuss the safety and effectiveness of these options.
The user is using 1mg oral finasteride, 1.25mg oral minoxidil nightly, and ketoconazole shampoo weekly for hair loss, reporting no side effects. They self-prescribed after inconsistent use of topical minoxidil, using Lonitab from Intas pharmaceutical.
The user discusses using Minoxidil for hair loss and is considering RU58841 to reduce excessive oil production. They seek advice on RU58841's effectiveness in blocking sebum production.
Ketoconazole is somewhat effective for male pattern baldness (MPB), but the manufacturer promotes it for dandruff instead, possibly because the dandruff market is larger and to avoid confusion among dandruff sufferers without hair loss.
The conversation discusses using PGE2 as a hair growth stimulant, comparing it to minoxidil, and considering the addition of Setipiprant. Concerns about side effects like skin damage and cost are also mentioned.