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The user experienced side effects from spironolactone and is seeking alternatives for androgenetic alopecia (AGA), considering saw palmetto but unsure of its effectiveness. They are also exploring the possibility of using topical spironolactone, despite availability challenges.

The group buy for CB-03-01, a topical anti-androgen for hair loss, was postponed and refunded due to issues with the product's form and solubility. The product, also known as Breezula, is an alternative to finasteride with fewer side effects, but its official release is delayed until 2021.

The conversation discusses mixing finasteride (Essengen-F) with a multi-peptide serum for hair density. The main concern is whether these products can be used together safely.

HMI-115, a newly discovered hair loss treatment that could potentially be effective for those with diffuse thinning and telogen effluvium. It is based on prolactin receptor antagonist signaling and has already undergone Phase I trials in women, with potential commercialization by 2027.

Zeuss sublingual products for hair loss, including finasteride and a finasteride-free option, are discussed for their potential to reduce side effects through sublingual delivery. The inclusion of copper peptides is noted, but the high price is a concern without more user feedback.

A user underwent a hair transplant with 3500 grafts at WSC clinic in Istanbul and uses finasteride, biotin, multivitamins, minoxidil with finasteride, biotin shampoo, and coconut oil with peppermint oil for hair loss treatment. Another user commented that the result looks like a barren patch of hair.

Fluridil, a non-steroidal anti-androgen approved for alopecia in parts of Europe, is noted for its low side effects but is not commonly discussed. The user is inquiring if anyone prefers it over other anti-androgens like Spiro or RU58841.

The user stopped using finasteride after two weeks due to gynecomastia symptoms and shared blood work results questioning if they indicate a cause for the side effects. The user is considering restarting finasteride and seeking advice on their blood work levels in relation to gynecomastia.

The conversation is about the best vehicle for RU58841, comparing trichosol and Garnier/Vichy Stemoxydine, avoiding propylene glycol (PG) or ethanol due to previous scalp damage. The user is also seeking sources for these products in the EU.

New treatments for AGA are emerging, including pyrilutumide, gt0029, scube3, kx-826, and pp405. Verteporfin is mentioned as a promising option.

Pyrilutamide is seen as a last hope for those who can't take finasteride, with promising results reported. However, there's uncertainty about the quality and consistency of Pyrilutamide from black market sources.

The user experienced severe scalp itching after using RU58841 and ketoconazole shampoo, despite trying moisturizing treatments. They suspect the issue is related to the propylene glycol in the vehicle and are seeking alternatives.

The user has been using RU58841 for about 2 months without noticeable results or side effects and is unsure if this duration is sufficient to judge its effectiveness. Other users suggest continuing the treatment for at least 6 months and ensuring the product's authenticity.

RU58841 is not recommended for use around children due to potential exposure risks. Alternatives like CB-03-01 might be considered, but further research is advised.

A user is seeing good results with RU58841 for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and thicker hair. They plan to use pumpkin seed oil as a solvent to avoid water content, which they believe reduces the effectiveness of anti-androgens.

A user shared a vlog about their experience using 5mg of pyrilutamide daily for hair loss, including before and after pictures.

The conversation discusses the potential effectiveness and risks of using topical finasteride for hair loss, with considerations about using DMSO as a vehicle for application. Concerns are raised about DMSO's safety, absorption issues, and the systemic effects of topical finasteride.

User discusses topical liposomal finasteride for hair loss, hoping to avoid breast growth side effect. Conversation includes using minoxidil, fluridil, and dermarolling, and mentions minimal systemic absorption of liposomal finasteride.

Topical finasteride in a liposomal formulation reduces systemic absorption compared to ethanol solutions. The user is seeking sources for such products, noting that popular options like morr-f are not liposomal.

Hair loss treatments, specifically 5AR inhibitors, can impact neurosteroids and sexual health. The effects of topical fin/dut on tissue-specific DHT levels are unclear.

The user has been using Pyrilutamide (Pyril) for hair loss for a month alongside finasteride/dutasteride since 2021 but hasn't seen results. They are considering switching to RU58841 due to its many success stories, despite being skeptical about the legitimacy and testing of Pyrilutamide.

User asks if HMI 115 hasn't done phase 1 for AGA in humans. Conversation includes treatments Min, Fin, and RU.

A user shared their experience using topical finasteride for 6 months, showing a reduction in DHT levels but no visible improvement in hair loss. They are considering switching to oral finasteride for potentially better results.

The conversation is about dealing with hair shedding due to seborrheic dermatitis and recent illness. Recommendations include treating seborrheic dermatitis with ketoconazole, correcting vitamin D deficiency, and improving sleep.

Post Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) may result from epigenetic changes and gut microbiota alterations. Supplementing with Allopregnanolone might protect against these adverse effects.

The conversation discusses using RU58841 or Pyrilutamide for hair loss, with some users suggesting switching to more proven treatments like oral or topical finasteride. One user reports no progress with RU58841, finasteride, and minoxidil, and mentions experiencing regression.

A 26-year-old has been using finasteride for over two years, initially at 1.25mg daily and later at 5mg weekly, resulting in stable hair condition with some regrowth and minimal side effects. The user reports high libido and a protein and vegetable-heavy diet, with initial watery semen as the only side effect.

The user stopped using finasteride and RU58841 and is considering CB-03-01 for androgenic alopecia but is concerned about the cost and effectiveness, especially at a lower dose than in clinical trials. They are also using minoxidil, micro-needling, and nizoral shampoo but are unsure about the correct application method for CB-03-01.

GT20029 showed promising results for hair growth in a Phase II trial, with the 1.0% twice-weekly regimen being the most effective. Some users expressed skepticism and humor about the product's effects and market availability.

A user shared their initial experiences with The Ordinary hair density serum, which contains Redensyl (taxifolin). They observed increased hair volume but also developed pimples, likely due to the serum stimulating sebaceous glands.