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The conversation discusses treatments for androgenetic alopecia, focusing on evidence-based supplements to complement finasteride. Suggestions include oral minoxidil, saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, tocotrienols, and various other supplements, while emphasizing the importance of scientific backing and cautioning against saw palmetto if already using finasteride.

The conversation discusses using finasteride for hair loss and considers additional supplements like vitamin D3, melatonin, zinc, biotin, and minoxidil. There is debate over zinc's effectiveness, with some suggesting it may not be beneficial for hair loss.

Combining therapies like scyllo-inositol, alpha-ketoglutarate, and autophagy-inducing supplements may enhance hair growth and prevent hair loss. Reporting individual results can accelerate progress in hair loss treatments.

Melatonin is being considered as a potential treatment for androgenic alopecia, with some users discussing its effects and combining it with other treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. Concerns about melatonin's impact on hormones and side effects from other treatments like ketoconazole were also discussed.

The conversation discusses the use of Minoxidil and finasteride for hair loss and explores the potential of Geranium sibiricum extract as a safer alternative. It highlights the difficulty in finding this specific extract and suggests considering other plants with similar compounds, like Indian gooseberry.

A recent publication suggests that the flavonoids eriocitrin and silymarin may be more effective than finasteride in binding to the enzyme responsible for hair loss. People in the conversation are skeptical about the effectiveness and safety of these flavonoids until tested on humans, and some discuss their personal experiences with other treatments.

Exosomes, cetirizine, melatonin, latanoprost, and caffeine are discussed as potential hair loss treatments. There is skepticism about the effectiveness of exosomes, especially in topical form, but some users report positive results.

Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.

The user experienced negative side effects from saw palmetto, including low libido and energy, and found some improvement after using Maca and Acetyl L-Carnitine. They emphasize lifestyle changes and positivity for recovery, while expressing caution about saw palmetto's side effects.

Pumpkin Seed Oil and Perilla Oil (with alpha-lipoic acid, linoleic acid, and oleic acid) are discussed as potential 5alpha-reductase inhibitors. The conversation focuses on their effectiveness for hair loss treatment.

The conversation discusses hair regrowth using saw palmetto (800 mg daily), a derma roller (0.5 mm twice a week), rosemary oil, and a multivitamin. The user mentions using Bliss Pharma's saw palmetto supplement.

The user experienced a significant drop in libido and energy after taking saw palmetto, which they believe caused these changes. They are seeking advice and reassurance, with some users suggesting that the effects may not be permanent and could improve over time with a healthy lifestyle.

Exosomes from Musely are being discussed as a topical hair loss treatment containing ingredients like latanoprost, caffeine, cetirizine, melatonin, vitamin D3, vitamin E, and biotin. Users are curious about its effectiveness and potential side effects, noting it may take 4-6 months to see results.

The conversation discusses the effectiveness of combining Laminaria japonica and Cistanche tubulosa extracts for hair growth. It also mentions treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses the potential of Sanguisorba Officinalis Root Extract as a treatment for hair loss by inhibiting FGF-5. The user also mentions the product évolis, which is based on this extract but is only available in the US and Australia.

The conversation discusses treating male pattern baldness with topical products containing Saw Palmetto extract. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

Saw palmetto's fatty acids, particularly lauric and linoleic acids, inhibit enzymes linked to hair loss, while sterols like beta-sitosterol are less effective due to poor absorption. The conversation questions which specific compounds in saw palmetto contribute to its anti-androgenic effects.

The conversation is about a product called Serioxyl, which was expected to contain stemoxydine. It clarifies that Diethyl lutidinate is another name for stemoxydine.

A user applied the 8T3 product for hair loss, targeting LPP and AGA, and plans to update on its effectiveness. The product uses a saline buffered phosphate vehicle, suitable for those intolerant to ethanolic vehicles.

A user shared that taking multivitamins, specifically Myprotein "Alpha Man," improved their sexual energy while on finasteride. They believe the benefits come from Zinc and Vitamin B6/12.

User wants to try procyanidin b2 and broccoli sprouts sulforaphane for hair loss and asks for supplement suggestions. Replies suggest taking fin by asteride and growing sprouts in mason jars to eat raw.

The conversation discusses a botanically derived treatment for androgenetic alopecia using ingredients like saw palmetto, green tea, and evening primrose, showing impressive results over 270 days. Concerns include the study's uncontrolled nature and potential product motivation, with suggestions to enhance absorption through derma rolling.

The user takes 1 mg finasteride three times a week, topical minoxidil daily, and Saw Palmetto both topically and orally on non-finasteride days. They recently added 1 g of pumpkin seed oil daily to improve hair thickness and are seeking advice on dosing and cycling Saw Palmetto.

A user reported that Procerin, containing Saw Palmetto and Pumpkin seed oil, provided similar hair thickening results as finasteride but with milder side effects. They experienced reduced libido and watery ejaculations but are adjusting the dose to minimize these effects.

User seeks Procyanidin B2 supplement source and asks for dosage comparison. Another user requests study details and apple type importance.

The conversation discusses using green tea, saw palmetto, horsetail, and zinc supplements for hair regrowth. One user criticizes the avoidance of finasteride.

The user is exploring topical Saw Palmetto as a milder alternative to microdosing topical Finasteride for hair loss, aiming to minimize systemic DHT impact. They plan to experiment with this herbal remedy for a year to assess its effectiveness on their mild androgenetic alopecia without significant side effects.

A user shared a list of natural supplements they tried that did not stop their male pattern baldness (MPB), including vitamin D, biotin, and various oils. The conversation includes skepticism and jokes about one of the methods, injecting jellyfish mucus into testicles, and mixed opinions on the effectiveness of natural treatments.

The conversation is about finding a legitimate source for Procyanidin B2 or Apple Extract with a clear percentage of Procyanidin B2 for making a topical solution. The user reports thicker and darker body hair after taking Oral Apple Polyphenols extract.

The post discusses a hair loss treatment regimen using saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil extract, EGCG (green tea) extract, grape seed oil extract, rosemary oil extract, and Zix. The user plans to use these DHT-blockers and 5AR inhibitors for six months and report the results.