The conversation is about making a solution of RU58841 using propanediol instead of propylene glycol due to skin irritation. The user seeks advice on whether this substitution is acceptable.
Akinfenrawr experienced negative side effects from oral finasteride and RU58841, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They discuss various options, including raloxifene, oral dutasteride, liposomal finasteride, Breezula, Pyrilutamide, SM04554, and sulforaphane, but have concerns about efficacy, availability, and cost.
The conversation discusses the potential benefits of creating a hydrophobic version of finasteride to reduce systemic side effects while maintaining scalp health. It compares this idea to fluridil, which is designed to be hydrophobic and has less systemic absorption.
Pyrilutamide is officially available for purchase, and users suggest Fluridil as an alternative topical anti-androgen. Some users report positive results with pyrilutamide from Koshine.
Comparing the effectiveness of RU58841, Pyrilutamide and CB-03-01 as treatments for hair loss, with people discussing different aspects such as binding affinity, time of inhibition, safety data and cost.
The user mixed Pyrilutamide with a KB solution and noticed some undissolved powder, questioning if more shaking or liquid is needed. They use Pyrilutamide from Anagenic.
Pyrilutamide's systemic degradation is unclear, unlike fluridil, which becomes inactive in the body. The discussion focuses on whether pyrilutamide shares this property.
Ethosomes are suggested as an effective delivery method for topical finasteride solutions, requiring the addition of a phospholipid like soya lecithins. The user questions why do-it-yourself solutions don't commonly use ethosomes despite their potential benefits.
The conversation discusses the potential for developing a biologic "DHT sponge" to neutralize DHT in the bloodstream as a treatment for hair loss, suggesting it could be more targeted and have fewer side effects than current treatments like finasteride and dutasteride. Concerns include the complexity, cost, and potential side effects of such a treatment, as well as skepticism about its feasibility and market interest.
Topical finasteride may have higher systemic absorption and lower efficacy when using a Propylene Glycol/Ethanol formulation compared to the hydroxypropyl chitosan (HPCH) formulation. The safety profile of topical finasteride relies heavily on the HPCH formulation, and using standard solutions might lead to different pharmacokinetics.
The conversation discusses the use of pyrrolidinyl diaminopyrmidine oxide (triaminodil) compared to minoxidil for hair loss treatment. The user is considering switching from 5% minoxidil to a product containing 5% triaminodil.
Using liposomal solutions with dutasteride, minoxidil, and tretinoin worsened hair loss due to buildup and scalp issues. Consulting a professional and returning to simpler treatments like finasteride and minoxidil improved the situation.
OP asked if a product from Amazon is sufficient to dilute finasteride. A user advised against using propylene glycol alone, suggesting a pre-made solution instead.
A topical treatment called 1961, containing multiple products, is discussed for its compatibility with finasteride. It is suggested that 1961 does not negatively affect finasteride's effectiveness and may even enhance its absorption.
Pyrilutamide, a nonsteroidal antiandrogen drug under development for the potential treatment of androgenic alopecia. The conversation discusses its binding affinity to the androgen receptor and the timeline for possible availability after trials are completed in the United States and China.
The user left their 2.5 mg pills at home and is considering using 5% topical minoxidil as a substitute. They also inquire about where to obtain over-the-counter minoxidil pills.
The potential stability of pyrilutamide in a mixture with water, and how it could be used in combination with Minoxidil and Finasteride to treat hair loss.
The user experienced side effects from oral minoxidil and is seeking alternatives like Stemoxydine, Aminexil, and Redensyl + Procapil. They have been using finasteride for four years and are considering other treatments due to concerns about side effects.
Switching from minoxidil foam to topical solution and considering adding caffeine, melatonin, or cetirizine. Currently using 2.5mg oral minoxidil and 1mg oral finasteride, planning to ask for 0.5mg oral dutasteride and 5mg oral minoxidil.
The conversation is about adding crushed bicalutamide or spironolactone to a topical mix with finasteride and minoxidil to suppress testosterone in hair follicles, similar to what RU58841 does. The user cannot obtain RU58841 in their country and is seeking advice on this alternative approach for hair loss treatment.
The user is considering liposomal minoxidil due to non-response and side effects from other treatments. They are exploring tretinoin with topical minoxidil as an alternative.
Pyrilutimide and CB-03-01, two treatments for hair loss, have similar clinical trial results despite different binding affinities to androgen receptors. Factors other than binding affinity, like the time a drug stays bound to the receptor, may influence their effectiveness.
The user tried Minoxidil without success, and Finasteride worked but caused sexual side effects even at a very low dose. They are seeking alternative treatments for hair loss as they cannot tolerate anti-androgens and are also in therapy for mental health.
Be cautious when sourcing PP405 or its analogs from third-party suppliers due to potential safety risks and lack of regulatory approval. The conversation highlights concerns about counterfeit products and the absence of reliable testing, making it risky to use such treatments.
RU58841 is being mixed with Minoxidil solution, but concerns arise about water causing instability. Mixing with water may lead to hydrolysis, potentially reducing effectiveness.
Minoxidil may age skin by slowing collagen synthesis, but using collagen peptides and a basic skincare routine might counteract this. Foam minoxidil could reduce systemic absorption and avoid alcohol-related side effects.
Topical finasteride with hydroxypropyl chitosan shows significantly less serum absorption and minimal DHT reduction compared to oral finasteride. Users need the specific chitosan formulation to avoid side effects seen with regular ethanol+PG solutions.
The user is seeking alternatives to propylene glycol and glycerin for mixing with RU58841 due to allergies and greasiness. Suggestions include reducing glycerin and considering stemoxydine as a solvent.