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The conversation discusses the delay in the PP405 Phase 2 study results, now expected by the end of 2025, and skepticism about research practices. There is also mention of optimism for Amplifica's AMP303 and a topical treatment in early testing.

The conversation discusses using oral spironolactone for hair loss in males when 5ari blockers fail. Concerns are raised about spironolactone's side effects, and alternatives like pyrilutamide and breezula are suggested.

RU58841 may cause heart-related side effects like palpitations and chest pain, though evidence is mostly anecdotal. Users report mixed experiences, with some stopping due to side effects and others using it without issues, but concerns about its safety and sourcing remain.

Saw palmetto, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.

RU58841 from Amazon is unreliable, with users reporting no benefits and side effects like eye swelling and chest pain. Rudirect is recommended for purchasing in Europe.

The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.

The conversation discusses whether age affects the side effects and effectiveness of hair loss treatments like finasteride and dutasteride. Some believe early treatment yields better results, while others mention varied outcomes across ages and personal regrowth experiences without a clear consensus on age impact.

The user increased their steroid dosage and noticed hair shedding, so they adjusted their regimen by reducing steroid doses and adding oral dutasteride. They are also experimenting with combining RU-58841 and KX-826/pyrilutamide in minoxidil to address hair loss.

An 18-year-old experienced severe side effects, including heart palpitations and high blood pressure, after using RU58841 once, leading to a referral to cardiology for suspected left ventricular hypertrophy. The user regrets using RU58841 and seeks advice on recovery, while others suggest preexisting conditions or genetic predispositions may be factors.

The conversation discusses using S5 plus cream (Spironolactone, Alfatradiol, and Tempol) as an alternative to finasteride for hair loss, with concerns about its effectiveness and potential systemic absorption. The original poster already uses 5% minoxidil and is seeking alternatives due to fears of finasteride's side effects.

The conversation is about trying DS Labs SOD supplements for hair loss, which contain ingredients like Genistein, B-sitosterol, and Biotin. The user is considering adding these supplements to their existing hair care routine.

Treatment options for female alopecia androgenetica, discussing the availability of spironolactone online in The Netherlands and other potential treatments like finasteride, minoxidil and RU58841.

A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.

27-year-old female experiences aggressive hair thinning and hirsutism despite normal testosterone levels. Spironolactone and 2% minoxidil were ineffective; high DHEA sulfate levels may be the cause.

The user underwent two hair transplants, started taking finasteride, oral minoxidil, and dutasteride, and began micro-needling to improve hair density and manage hair loss. They also focused on curly hair care techniques, resulting in noticeable improvements in the hairline and overall appearance.

User asks if HMI 115 hasn't done phase 1 for AGA in humans. Conversation includes treatments Min, Fin, and RU.

The conversation discusses hair regrowth using 2-deoxy-d-ribose (2DDR) combined with minoxidil, with some users noting new hair growth. The original poster has been using minoxidil for 12 years and is considering combining 2DDR with finasteride, despite past side effects.

Pyrilutamide is considered by some as an alternative for those avoiding 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride, but opinions on its effectiveness vary. Some users report similar results with fluridil and pyrilutamide, while others find pyrilutamide less effective compared to prescription treatments.

RU58841, a potential hair loss treatment, was not commercialized due to marketability issues and lack of long-term safety data. Concerns about its formulation and delivery methods further complicate its use.

RU58841 5% is theoretically equivalent to 2mg of dutasteride for hair loss treatment, with RU58841 offering higher potential but more variability due to absorption issues. Users discuss the effectiveness of RU58841 and dutasteride, with some preferring dutasteride for consistent results and others finding success with RU58841.

The user shared a 5-month update on using finasteride, minoxidil, and ketoconazole shampoo for diffuse thinning, along with supplements like B-Vitamins, D-Vitamins, Iron, and Beta carotene. They noted improvement in hair condition and encouraged others to check previous posts for more information.

PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment undergoing trials, with discussions on its effectiveness and comparison to existing treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. There is skepticism about its status as a cure, with hopes for future advancements in genetic treatments like CRISPR.

Ritlecitinib and PP405 show promise for hair regrowth. Diagnosing the cause of hair loss is crucial before treatment.

Hair loss treatments discussed include alfatradiol, big 3, finasteride, RU58841, and stemoxydine. Alfatradiol is less effective but has fewer side effects, and mixing with stemoxydine may improve results.

RU58841 is discussed as a hair loss treatment, with concerns about its effectiveness diminishing after two years due to androgen receptor upregulation. The user is hesitant to start using it, fearing it may worsen their condition over time.

PP405 is a potential hair loss treatment that inhibits mitochondrial pyruvate carriers, increasing lactate dehydrogenase activity and stimulating hair follicle stem cells. In a phase 1 trial, 31% of participants showed over 20% hair density increase with PP405 treatment.

The user "Curious_Conflict_959" shared a progress picture of their hair transplant after 5 months. They used a low dosage of RU on native hairs and had PRP treatments. All hair loss has stopped.

Pyrilutamide and RU58841 are androgen receptor antagonists that block receptors without significantly reducing testosterone or DHT levels. Any indirect effect on androgen levels is likely negligible.

Finasteride and dutasteride, used for hair loss, can cause sexual dysfunction, depression, and suicidal thoughts, with some effects persisting after stopping. The post stresses the importance of being aware of these risks.

A 30-year-old man experienced significant hair loss after starting testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), which did not improve with daily finasteride and minoxidil. He is considering restarting TRT and is seeking advice on using pyrilutamide or RU58841 to prevent further hair loss.