Potential side effects of 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride. Users debate risks, benefits, and personal experiences with these hair loss treatments.
The conversation discusses the safety study of PP405, emphasizing that early trials focus on safety rather than efficacy, and that any efficacy data from such a short study should be viewed skeptically. It also highlights that the information released is primarily for securing funding, and that meaningful efficacy results are expected in later phases.
RU58841 is discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, with comparisons to finasteride. There is interest in leaked trial data, but no official clinical validation or approval for RU58841.
RU58841 lacks FDA approval due to financial and safety concerns, including potential cardiological side effects. The company abandoned further research, and users report adverse effects like heart palpitations and gynecomastia.
RU58841 is not recommended for use around children due to potential exposure risks. Alternatives like CB-03-01 might be considered, but further research is advised.
Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) impacts various skin conditions, including Androgenetic alopecia and seborrheic dermatitis, by causing overactivity in sebaceous glands. Topical medications Tacrolimus and Clobetasol can reduce these inflammatory conditions, and treatments like RU58841, Minoxidil, and Finasteride may also be beneficial.
HairCarePls shared their 5-month Dutasteride update, mentioning previous use of Finasteride with no results. They also use Spironolactone, Minoxidil, dermarolling, Ketoconazole shampoo, and Yaz contraception for hair loss treatment.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, mentioning minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, VDPHL, GT20029, and follicle cloning as potential solutions. It also reveals that the discussion about PP405 was an April Fool's joke.
Topical androgen receptor antagonists may not be necessary if 5-AR inhibitors like finasteride or dutasteride effectively reduce DHT levels. Combining a 5-AR inhibitor with a topical androgen antagonist could potentially enhance treatment, but oral use of androgen antagonists is too risky due to severe side effects.
RU58841's side effects may be exaggerated due to anxiety, with some users experiencing no issues and others reporting symptoms like chest pain. RU58841, minoxidil, and finasteride are used for hair loss treatment, with varying individual reactions.
P5P supplementation helped reverse finasteride side effects, particularly by lowering prolactin levels and restoring sensitivity. The user experienced significant improvement within a day and full recovery in a few days.
A Spanish dermatologist suggests sulforaphane for androgenetic alopecia (AGA) due to its potential to remove DHT metabolites, though high dosages are needed. A topical formulation might be possible.
The user underwent two hair transplants, started taking finasteride, oral minoxidil, and dutasteride, and began micro-needling to improve hair density and manage hair loss. They also focused on curly hair care techniques, resulting in noticeable improvements in the hairline and overall appearance.
The conversation is about determining which type of Saw Palmetto, either Chamaerops humilis or Serenoa repens, is effective for inhibiting the 5 alpha reductase enzyme related to hair loss. Specific treatments mentioned are Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
OP switched from finasteride to dutasteride due to hair loss, but after 5 months, they are experiencing diffuse thinning and scalp issues. They are considering additional treatments like RU58841 and are using minoxidil, essential oils, and keto shampoo to manage symptoms.
The user has been using oral finasteride and topical minoxidil for 5 years, which stopped diffuse thinning but did not improve the hairline. They are considering a hair transplant and possibly starting dutasteride.
Hair loss treatments discussed include microneedling, minoxidil, tretinoin, finasteride, dutasteride, pumpkin seeds, saw palmetto, and scalp massage. The consensus is that finasteride or dutasteride is necessary for significant regrowth, while other methods may only slow hair loss.
RU58841 cured seborrheic dermatitis, oily scalp, dandruff, and scalp pain, improving hair health when combined with Minoxidil. Another user noted diet impacts their seborrheic dermatitis and that finasteride hasn't changed their condition.
The conversation is about choosing an anti-androgen for hair loss treatment, with options being alfatradiol and pyrilutamide. Alfatradiol is considered a better choice due to its established use, while pyrilutamide is more experimental.
The user is experiencing significant hair loss after switching from finasteride to dutasteride for five months. Suggestions include that the hair loss might be a normal shedding phase, with some recommending continuing the treatment for up to 24 months or considering alternatives like RU58841.
The user is seeking alternatives to propylene glycol and glycerin for mixing with RU58841 due to allergies and greasiness. Suggestions include reducing glycerin and considering stemoxydine as a solvent.
User asks if spironolactone can stack with finasteride and pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment. They question why spironolactone is associated with feminizing effects, while RU/pyri/fluridil, which work similarly, are not.
Finasteride may affect male offspring's fertility and hormonal balance, with debates on whether to discontinue use before conception. Some users report no issues, while others highlight the high doses used in rat studies.
Increasing the sult1a1 enzyme on the scalp may improve response to topical minoxidil. The user suggests using a baking soda solution, DMSO, and tretinoin to enhance enzyme activity and minoxidil effectiveness.
Hair loss theory suggests imbalance between Vitamin D Receptor (VDR) and Androgen Receptor (AR) activation. Proposed treatment includes upregulating VDR, downregulating AR, and improving mitochondrial health.
The user experienced significant hair regrowth using dutasteride (0.5 mg three times a week) and RU58841 (5% once a day), with no side effects reported from RU58841. They are considering increasing the RU58841 dose or adding minoxidil for further improvement.
The user has been using Pyrilutamide (Pyril) for hair loss for a month alongside finasteride/dutasteride since 2021 but hasn't seen results. They are considering switching to RU58841 due to its many success stories, despite being skeptical about the legitimacy and testing of Pyrilutamide.
GT20029 is discussed as a potential treatment for androgenetic hair loss by targeting androgen receptors, unlike finasteride which reduces DHT broadly. Concerns include its effectiveness, genetic variations in androgen receptors, and availability, with some skepticism about its potential as a true alternative.