A user's experience with the Big 3 (minoxidil, finasteride and RU58841) hair loss treatment along with dermarolling. The dermaroller pin was 1.5mm used once per week and drew some blood but not a lot.
User shared 13 months of progress using finasteride, microneedling, vitamins, and scalp care, and recently started stemoxydine. The post includes before and after photos.
The user is struggling with seborrheic dermatitis and plans to try ciclopirox olamine after finding ketoconazole too drying. They are also using finasteride daily.
RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.
Stemoxydine may work synergistically with minoxidil and finasteride for hair growth, but its effectiveness is debated, with some users experiencing minimal results and concerns about cost. Users suggest sticking to proven treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, while considering stemoxydine as an additional option.
RU58841 from rudirect caused more hair shedding and itch, while anageninc's RU58841 improved the situation. Users are concerned about the quality and authenticity of RU58841 from different suppliers, including those from China.
Mixing minoxidil and stemoxydine is not recommended due to potential dilution and reduced effectiveness. Applying them separately with a time gap is suggested.
A user is considering mixing Stemoxydine, RU-58841, Alfatradiol, and Tretinoin into a single topical solution for hair loss. They are concerned about potential interactions that could reduce the effectiveness of these ingredients.
Woman with AGA uses microneedling, minoxidil, spiro, and laser for hair loss. Experiences redness and tenderness for three days after microneedling with Dermapen M8, asks if it's normal and the correct speed setting.
Ursolic acid, found in apple peels, lemongrass, rosemary, and lavender, may have anti-androgen effects similar to finasteride. It might be beneficial for hair health when used with other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.
Disinfecting microneedlers is important to prevent infection, with suggestions to use high-percentage alcohol or denture tablets for sterilization. Rollers may cause skin damage, so stamps or pens are recommended for safer microneedling.
Stemoxydine's effects on hair growth are uncertain and not well-studied, with users reporting mixed results and concerns about maintaining gains. Some users combine it with 5AR inhibitors like Dutasteride, but results vary, and conditions like lichen planopilaris complicate treatment.
The conversation discusses concerns about RU58841 degrading when exposed to light and transferring pyri to a dark glass bottle to prevent this. The user keeps the pyri out for only two minutes before storing it in a dark place.
The user is experiencing an allergic reaction to propylene glycol in Kirkland minoxidil and is considering switching to a foam version or a low-PG minoxidil solution. They are also contemplating oral minoxidil but are concerned about its long-term safety.
The user is allergic to minoxidil and experienced severe itching and redness. They are considering alternatives like finasteride, dutasteride, and dermarolling for hair loss treatment.
The conversation is about whether to use gloves when applying 5% RU58841 to avoid systemic absorption and if washing hands with water is sufficient. Users question the concern, noting it is applied to the scalp.
The conversation discusses using high molecular weight hyaluronic acid after microneedling to form a protective barrier, though it's considered expensive and offers marginal improvement. Users share experiences with different microneedling tools like derma rollers, dermastamps, and Dr. Pen, with some opting not to use any products on the scalp.
The user is seeking alternatives to propylene glycol and glycerin for mixing with RU58841 due to allergies and greasiness. Suggestions include reducing glycerin and considering stemoxydine as a solvent.
Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.
A user shared their hair regrowth success using microneedling with a dermaroller every 6 days and minoxidil, recommending betadine (povidone-iodine) before microneedling to sterilize the scalp and enhance results. Another user noted the potential risks of iodine toxicity.
The conversation discusses using stemoxydine for hair loss, with OP considering using 1.5 ml daily despite the recommended 6 ml. Some users doubt its effectiveness, while others report positive experiences using similar amounts.
A user discusses using dermastamping for hair loss and questions the timing of applying a mixture of peppermint oil, spearmint oil, rosemary oil, and castor oil due to their anti-inflammatory effects. They wonder if waiting 10 hours after stamping would be more effective.
A 25-year-old is experiencing chronic telogen effluvium (TE) and androgenetic alopecia (AGA) after surgery, using finasteride, red light therapy, and supplements, and considering oral minoxidil despite heart concerns. They are unsure whether to start minoxidil before or after an upcoming surgery, which may trigger another hair shed.
RU58841, oral and topical minoxidil, finasteride, and ketoconazole shampoo led to significant hair regrowth, though some suspect a hair transplant. Concerns about RU58841's side effects, like anxiety and heart issues, were discussed.