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RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.

The conversation discusses using cyproterone acetate at 12.5 mg to manage hair loss, with concerns about its effects on testosterone and potential health issues. Other treatments mentioned include finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841, with varying experiences and outcomes.

The user is considering RU58841 and has been using dutasteride since age 17. They are seeking affordable SARD options, mentioning ASC-J9, GT20029, and AH001.

A 17-year-old is concerned about potential hair loss due to maternal genetics and wonders if treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, or RU58841 will be effective. They hope their paternal genetics will help prevent hair loss or make treatments more effective.

Finasteride can reduce neuroactive steroids, causing side effects like depression, anxiety, and sexual dysfunction. Some users experience persistent symptoms after stopping finasteride, while others use alternative treatments like topical solutions.

Gut microbiota significantly influences androgen metabolism, impacting hair loss treatments like finasteride. Probiotics, dietary changes, and fecal microbiota transplants may help manage DHT levels and improve hair health.

High DHEA levels may contribute to hair loss by increasing DHT in hair follicles, potentially explaining why finasteride is ineffective for some. Treatments like high-dose dutasteride and RU58841 are suggested, but the underlying cause, such as adrenal issues, should be investigated.

Finasteride increased the user's estrogen levels by 51%, causing concerns about gynecomastia and sleep issues. Despite potential side effects, the user prefers continuing finasteride to prevent hair loss, considering it essential for self-esteem.

DHT may inhibit hair growth by affecting mitochondrial function, leading to hair follicle miniaturization. Treatments like minoxidil and PP405 may promote hair growth by altering metabolic pathways, potentially counteracting DHT's effects.

Caffeine may promote hair growth and potentially inhibit 5-α-reductase activity in hair follicles, but its effectiveness and systemic impact remain unclear. Users discuss using topical caffeine solutions, with some experiencing no side effects compared to finasteride.

Isotretinoin may cause hair loss by increasing DHT through a precursor androgen, DHEAS. Treatments like topical antiandrogens (RU58841, pyrilutamide) and drugs increasing PPAR-y expression (pioglitazone) might prevent this hair loss.

PP405, a topical LDH inhibitor, has shown to stimulate hair follicle stem cell proliferation in humans with moderate hair loss. They are advancing to more detailed trials this year.

The possible increased risk of severe Covid-19 cases in men due to higher androgen levels, and how taking medications such as finasteride, dutasteride, spironolactone, enzalutamide, or canabidiol might help mitigate the severity of the disease.

Finasteride's effectiveness and side effects may vary based on male phenotypes, with some users noting differences in response related to body and facial hair characteristics. Some users report success with lower doses, while others experience side effects, suggesting individual variability in response to the treatment.

Dutasteride may affect testosterone levels, leading to high ferritin and iron levels, which can cause hair loss. High ferritin might be linked to past heavy drinking or hemochromatosis.

The conversation discusses the potential of PP405 as a hair loss treatment, with some users expressing skepticism and others hopeful about its development. There is also mention of other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and Pyrilutamide, with users debating the effectiveness and safety of self-experimentation versus waiting for clinical trial results.

The conversation discusses concerns that Anagenic's version of GT20029 might not be as effective or safe as Kintor's, with comparisons to issues faced by pyrilutamide. The chemical structure of the drug has been published.

Finasteride's potential side effects, especially sexual dysfunction, are discussed, with emphasis on hormonal balance between testosterone and estradiol. Users share experiences with finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride, highlighting the variability in side effects and the influence of mindset and lifestyle.

The conversation is about the availability of the PP405 formula for hair loss treatment, with mentions of finasteride and its side effects. Users discuss the potential of obtaining the formula through unofficial channels and the challenges related to its genetic sequence and delivery method.

PP405 shows promise in hair loss treatment, but stem cell therapy using adipose-derived stem cells and ATP also successfully reversed androgenetic alopecia in mice. Stem cell therapy is costly, and some doubt the effectiveness of PP405 based on press releases.

Female (37) experiencing hair loss for 5 years, tried max dose of spiro and oral + topical minox without success. Discovered low cortisol and low DHEA levels, seeking functional medicine practitioner for help.

Hair loss treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and potential mRNA therapies are discussed. There is skepticism about targeting specific genes due to the complex genetic nature of hair loss.

User asks if spironolactone can stack with finasteride and pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment. They question why spironolactone is associated with feminizing effects, while RU/pyri/fluridil, which work similarly, are not.

The conversation discusses various factors affecting hair loss, not just DHT, and mentions treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and melatonin. Some users report personal experiences with these treatments and hormone tests, while others speculate on the role of hormones like prolactin and cortisol in hair loss.

PP405 is seen as a potential breakthrough for converting vellus hairs to terminal hairs, with users expressing both hope and skepticism. It is compared to treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, with discussions on side effects and marketing concerns.

RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.

The user is concerned about mixing Pantostin (with Alfatradiol) and Finasteride in a topical solution, fearing a potential toxic reaction or ineffectiveness. They seek advice on whether this combination is safe.

Finasteride can cause side effects like erectile dysfunction and decreased libido, possibly due to increased estradiol from testosterone aromatization, especially in those with higher body fat. Side effects vary widely and may also be influenced by genetic factors or neurosteroid inhibition.

Fluridil may decrease the number of androgen receptors in hair follicles by up to 95%. This suggests a different action mechanism from other non-steroidal antiandrogens like RU58841, indicating they might be used together.