Pyrilutamide, a possible hair loss treatment, ceasing to be traded due to patent laws; and the hope that this indicates it may be a legitimate treatment.
PTD-DBM therapy for hair loss is being developed by Dr. Kang-Yell Choi, with human testing planned in South Korea. Some clinics in the U.S. offer PTD-DBM/valproic acid therapy, but it hasn't completed trials yet.
The conversation is about the effectiveness and production of GT20029, a drug being developed as a topical androgen receptor degrader for hair loss, and whether it can fully degrade androgen receptors or only partially. It also discusses the drug's potential unique working mechanism and synthesis by a company called Anagen.
The user, on testosterone replacement therapy, found finasteride and minoxidil ineffective for hair loss. They are trying a new topical gel with dutasteride, tretinoin, and a higher concentration of minoxidil, and plan to document the results.
Hair loss treatments, specifically 5AR inhibitors, can impact neurosteroids and sexual health. The effects of topical fin/dut on tissue-specific DHT levels are unclear.
A 28 year old using a hair loss prevention protocol to restore thinning hair, which includes finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, stemoxydine, alopecin, nizoral shampoo and microneedling; the user is now adding pyrilutamide solution to the regimen with the hope of improving their results. RU58841 was also ordered but not yet used.
Chime Biologics and Hope Medicine are speeding up the launch of a first-in-class antibody drug, HMI-115, for endometriosis and androgenic alopecia. The treatment involves a series of subcutaneous injections, has shown promising results in phase 1, and continues to promote hair regrowth even after the treatment is stopped.
The conversation discusses the safety study of PP405, emphasizing that early trials focus on safety rather than efficacy, and that any efficacy data from such a short study should be viewed skeptically. It also highlights that the information released is primarily for securing funding, and that meaningful efficacy results are expected in later phases.
PTD-DBM is being explored for hair regrowth by targeting CXXC5, with clinical trials expected after pre-clinical studies. Users express anticipation and skepticism about its effectiveness.
The conversation is about finding a reliable Chinese source for pyrilutamide or RU58841, ideally with a third-party Certificate of Analysis from Janoshik Analytical. The user is seeking recommendations for these hair loss treatments.
The user applies a topical solution containing minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, retinoic acid, and hydrocortisone to address scalp inflammation and is considering adding cetirizine to the mix. They are calculating the correct amount of cetirizine to add to their formula and have paused this approach to retry oral minoxidil.
A user applied the 8T3 product for hair loss, targeting LPP and AGA, and plans to update on its effectiveness. The product uses a saline buffered phosphate vehicle, suitable for those intolerant to ethanolic vehicles.
The user is looking for a PG-free solvent in the UK or EU to make their own pyrilutamide solution for hair loss and is currently using finasteride, considering minoxidil. They hope pyrilutamide will help stabilize their hair loss.
Creating a liposomal gel with Pyrilutamide for hair loss to reduce systemic effects, similar to Xyon's gel. The discussion includes concerns about ingredient sourcing and the benefits of targeted topical treatments.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically RU58841, with mentions of side effects from finasteride and dutasteride. Alternatives like Pyri, KX-826, and Breezula are also mentioned.
The user has been using oral Dutasteride, RU58841, and Minoxidil for three years without success and is considering adding topical Finasteride or Dutasteride to target DHT both locally and systemically. Other users suggest sticking to a consistent treatment plan, exploring different combinations, and considering other factors like potential misdiagnosis or inconsistent medication use.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, including finasteride, microneedling, minoxidil, and PTD-DBM. The user has not noticed significant regrowth and is considering cost-effective options like valproic acid.
A user is considering making their own topical finasteride from crushed Propecia tablets and asks if there would be any difference compared to pharmacy-made versions or products like Essegen-F. They note that making drugs at home is generally not recommended.
RU58841 can be ordered as a powder and compounded at home, but it should be stored at room temperature to avoid crystallization. Pyraulatmide may follow a similar principle.
The user mixed Pyrilutamide with a KB solution and noticed some undissolved powder, questioning if more shaking or liquid is needed. They use Pyrilutamide from Anagenic.
Exploring hair loss treatments beyond DHT, including Minoxidil, pyruvate, Gt20029 targeting androgen receptors, and vasodilators. Other options like Kx826, adenosine signaling, growth factor topicals, and microneedling are also discussed.
The conversation discusses using very low dose topical finasteride to achieve specific serum DHT reduction percentages. It concludes that finasteride dosage increases linearly between 5-30% DHT reduction but requires exponential increases for reductions up to 70%.
Breezula (clascoterone) and Formula 82F (topical finasteride) are treatments for hair loss that block DHT differently; Breezula competes with DHT at the hormone receptor site without systemic effects, while 82F inhibits the enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT. Breezula may work for those who don't respond to finasteride and vice versa.
SCUBE3 and GT20029 are potential treatments for hair loss, with SCUBE3 stimulating hair growth and GT20029 protecting against DHT. A combined approach using SCUBE3, finasteride or dutasteride, and later GT20029 could provide a comprehensive treatment for androgenetic alopecia.
Topical finasteride in a liposomal formulation reduces systemic absorption compared to ethanol solutions. The user is seeking sources for such products, noting that popular options like morr-f are not liposomal.
The user is seeking advice on sourcing finasteride, dutasteride, and minoxidil, as their doctors are unwilling to prescribe both finasteride/dutasteride and minoxidil simultaneously. They are also looking for sources of GHK-Cu and RU58841 in the USA, with suggestions including using services like Hims, ro.co, and Musely.
The FDA will now require only one clinical trial for drug approval, potentially speeding up the release of hair loss treatments like PP405. Pelage is expected to present full results of PP405 Phase 2a trials and move to Phase III in mid-2026.
GT20029 is a topical treatment that degrades androgen receptors to prevent hair thinning and loss, potentially offering fewer side effects than systemic treatments like finasteride. Concerns include its impact on hair texture and potential systemic effects, with market availability speculated in 3 to 5 years.