Woman uses antiandrogens for hair thinning prevention, experiences severe dry eye with finasteride. Asks if dutasteride could be better despite potential for worse dry eye.
RU-58642 is a powerful anti-androgen that was not developed further, possibly due to safety concerns or financial reasons. RU58841 is a topical alternative, but it is less effective than finasteride and dutasteride, and its long-term effects are not well-studied.
Fluridil, an antiandrogen that is not widely used or known about due to its expense and lack of availability in the US. It is suggested as a potential alternative for people who don't want to lower their DHT through treatments such as Minoxidil, Finasteride, Nizoral shampoo, and Dermarolling.
RU58841 and Pyrilutamide (Kx-826) are both topical anti-androgens, but neither is effective for hair regrowth. RU58841 has more anecdotal support, while Pyrilutamide has progressed further in trials, though both have limitations.
RU58841 may pose cancer risks due to its antiandrogen properties and lack of long-term safety data. Using it is considered a high-risk experiment with unknown potential for harm.
The conversation discusses using ketoconazole, an anti-androgen, for hair loss and whether mesotherapy with dermarolling could enhance its absorption into the scalp. The user questions if the typical 2% ketoconazole shampoo dose would be effective when used after dermarolling to target androgen receptors in the scalp.
Pyrilutamide, a nonsteroidal antiandrogen drug under development for the potential treatment of androgenic alopecia. The conversation discusses its binding affinity to the androgen receptor and the timeline for possible availability after trials are completed in the United States and China.
The conversation discusses GT20029, a drug in Phase II trials that targets androgen receptors with minimal systemic effects, and TDM-105795, a growth stimulant with a different mechanism than minoxidil that may revive papilla stem cells. Both are potential new treatments for hair loss.
To minimize hair loss while using steroids, use finasteride or dutasteride and apply topical anti-androgens like RU58841. Avoid high doses of hair-toxic steroids; prefer testosterone, nandrolone, and boldenone.
User experienced slow gains with topical fin+min, switched to topical dut+min, and considered adding Eucapil. Another user suggested DUT may be less effective topically due to high molar mass and mentioned Fluridil as a weak anti-androgen that could help.
The group buy for CB-03-01, a topical anti-androgen for hair loss, was postponed and refunded due to issues with the product's form and solubility. The product, also known as Breezula, is an alternative to finasteride with fewer side effects, but its official release is delayed until 2021.
The user experienced side effects from daily finasteride and reduced the dosage to 0.25mg twice a week while continuing minoxidil. They are considering topical anti-androgens but are concerned about application difficulties and potential side effects.
Finasteride, minoxidil, dermarolling, and topical antiandrogens are effective for hair regrowth. Future treatments may include CB0301 and hair cloning.
A user experienced increased hair density loss after 4 months on dutasteride combined with finasteride. They are also using topical dutasteride with azelaic acid and alfatradiol but cannot tolerate antiandrogens like RU58841 due to headaches.
A 30-year-old woman with androgenetic alopecia is considering bicalutamide to slow hair loss but is concerned about its impact on muscle growth due to its anti-androgen effects. Alternatives suggested include dutasteride, spironolactone, RU58841, and minoxidil, with concerns about bicalutamide's side effects.
A user's experience with hair loss treatments, including Dutasteride, Oral Minoxidil and Finasteride; potential side effects; and the potential of using anti-androgens or microneedling.
User pancake9001 experienced minimal hair growth with Minoxidil for 3 years, but noticed dramatic hair loss after stopping. Replies suggest not stopping Minoxidil and considering adding an anti-androgen for better results.
The conversation discusses managing hair loss and scalp issues, with users sharing experiences using treatments like dutasteride, finasteride, ketoconazole, sulfur soap, and topical anti-androgens. Suggestions include trying sulfur soap, scalp massages, spironolactone, and dietary changes to reduce sebum production and dandruff.
A new hair loss treatment, Pyrilutamide, has been released and is claimed to be a strong anti-androgen, potentially effective when used with finasteride. However, there are mixed opinions on its effectiveness and safety, with some users skeptical and others purchasing it.
A 25 year old male who has been using finasteride and dutasteride for two years to treat his hair loss, with no success. Other treatments such as oral minoxidil, topical anti-androgens, RU58841, latanoprost, topical estrogen, CB 03 01, microneedling, keto 2% shampoo, vitamin D, Omega 3, B vitamins and probiotics were discussed.
GT20029 shows promise as a topical treatment for hair loss, potentially replacing finasteride for some due to its low systemic exposure and ability to degrade androgen receptors. However, skepticism remains about its long-term efficacy and availability, with some users expressing doubt about new treatments consistently failing to reach the market.
The potential effectiveness of homemade topical spironolactone in treating hair loss, with studies suggesting it is more effective than finasteride and even minoxidil when used as monotherapy. The conversation also mentions that other anti-androgens are being developed which may soon hit the market.
The conversation discusses a last-resort hair loss treatment combining topical finasteride, minoxidil, melatonin, and progesterone, with claims that topical finasteride can inhibit up to 52% of scalp DHT. One reply clarifies that progesterone is not an anti-androgen but has anti-androgenic properties because it competes with androgens for receptors.
Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and Spironolactone. One user shares success with Finasteride, Minoxidil, and low-dose Cyproterone Acetate, but warns against long-term use of oral anti-androgens.
Pyrilutamide's systemic degradation is unclear, unlike fluridil, which becomes inactive in the body. The discussion focuses on whether pyrilutamide shares this property.
Pyrilutamide and RU58841 are androgen receptor antagonists that block receptors without significantly reducing testosterone or DHT levels. Any indirect effect on androgen levels is likely negligible.
Ketoconazole shampoo does not significantly reduce systemic or scalp DHT levels and is mainly used for its anti-fungal and anti-inflammatory effects. It is not a replacement for finasteride, which is recommended by some users despite concerns about side effects.
Pyrilutamide shows minimal systemic absorption with low plasma levels and no accumulation, suggesting it's unlikely to cause systemic side effects. However, full results are not yet published in scientific journals.
A 23-year-old has been using finasteride, dutasteride, and spironolactone to combat hair loss and hormonal acne, with mixed results and concerns about side effects. The user is experimenting with spironolactone despite its potential risks, hoping for skin and body hair improvements.