RU58841 worsened hair condition, causing thinning and unusual patterns. The user stopped using it two months ago but hasn't seen recovery, and there's speculation about androgen receptor upregulation.
The conversation is about treatments for androgenetic alopecia, focusing on hyperresponders. Treatments include Minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, leg training, and cold therapy.
The conversation discusses the use of 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss in transgender women, particularly in relation to testosterone suppression. The original poster has been using dutasteride and is considering stopping it due to undetectable testosterone levels.
HMI-115, a newly discovered hair loss treatment that could potentially be effective for those with diffuse thinning and telogen effluvium. It is based on prolactin receptor antagonist signaling and has already undergone Phase I trials in women, with potential commercialization by 2027.
The relative strength of Pyrilutamide compared to RU58841 in terms of androgen receptor binding affinity. It has been noted that Pyrilutamide is 4x stronger than RU58841, with a higher binding affinity than DHT itself.
An arthritis drug, baricitinib, is discussed as a potential treatment for autoimmune alopecia, not androgenetic alopecia. Ritlecitinib is also mentioned as a possible treatment for scarring alopecia.
Dutasteride can cause hair shedding even with suppressed testosterone levels due to previous damage from DHT. Hair shedding is often a sign of damaged hair being replaced by healthier growth.
User discusses Alfatradiol (17a-Estradiol) as a potential hair loss treatment with mixed results. Concerns include low dosage, receptor theory, and possible increased aromatase activity on scalp.
The user experienced hair shedding and follicle shrinkage when using retinoic acid, despite trying different concentrations and frequencies. The hair loss persisted for six months but regrew after stopping the treatment.
The user experienced hair shedding after starting testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and is considering using DHT blockers like finasteride or dutasteride to address potential DHT-related hair loss. Low ferritin levels due to frequent blood donations may also contribute to hair issues, and the user is working on stabilizing iron levels.
Trans women discuss using finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss and whether to continue after testosterone suppression. One user reduced dutasteride dosage after achieving undetectable testosterone levels.
Eli Lilly's drug baricitinib showed effectiveness in treating alopecia areata, with higher doses resulting in significant hair regrowth compared to placebo. The treatment is not for male pattern baldness.
Pyrilutamide and RU58841 are androgen receptor antagonists that block receptors without significantly reducing testosterone or DHT levels. Any indirect effect on androgen levels is likely negligible.
RU58841 from rudirect caused more hair shedding and itch, while anageninc's RU58841 improved the situation. Users are concerned about the quality and authenticity of RU58841 from different suppliers, including those from China.
The user started shedding hair after beginning testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) despite using dutasteride and minoxidil, and added RU58841 to address the shedding. They reduced their TRT dose and hope RU58841 will stop the shedding quickly.
The conversation discusses the approval of Kintor Pharmaceutical's AR-PROTAC (GT20029) for clinical trials in China for acne and androgenic alopecia. One user expresses optimism about new treatments being developed and seeks clarification on how the new drug works, specifically if it temporarily degrades the AR protein to reduce DHT sensitivity in hair follicles.
Pyluritamide and RU58841 are compared for effectiveness in addition to dutasteride for hair loss treatment. Reddit users report great results with RU58841, but data suggests pyluritamide may have better affinity.
Hair loss treatments, specifically about the effectiveness of RU58841 compared to Pyrilutamide. Molecular weights and side effects were discussed in terms of efficacy and cost-effectiveness.
Pyrilutamide is believed to be more effective than RU58841 and 1 mg finasteride in treating hair loss, with no systemic hormonal effects and the potential to block more than 31% of scalp DHT. It may also antagonize scalp testosterone due to its action as an androgen receptor antagonist.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of RU58841 for hair loss compared to pyrilutamide, which failed to show significant hair regrowth in trials. Some users report personal side effects with RU58841 and question the criteria for success in hair loss treatments.
Tazarotene may be more effective than tretinoin when combined with topical minoxidil for hair loss due to its selective binding to RAR-beta and gamma, though it can cause irritation. Tazarotene's potency can lead to indirect inflammatory reactions despite potentially causing less irritation than tretinoin.
The user has not seen results from various hair loss treatments including finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, and others over several years and is considering adding RU58841 and starting hormone replacement therapy. They are also experiencing anxiety and contemplating moving to a more accepting environment for their nonbinary identity.
A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.
Pyrilutimide and CB-03-01, two treatments for hair loss, have similar clinical trial results despite different binding affinities to androgen receptors. Factors other than binding affinity, like the time a drug stays bound to the receptor, may influence their effectiveness.
The conversation is about which blood markers to test before starting a 5-AR inhibitor for hair loss. The user mentions already testing Total T, Free T, SHBG, Estradiol, Haematocrit, Red blood cell count, and White cell count, and asks if DHT or additional markers are needed.
The user has been using finasteride and minoxidil for hair loss but experienced worsening temple recession. They suspect they might be more sensitive to testosterone and are considering trying RU58841 or CB 03 01 as additional treatments.
The potential of using a specific antibody, HMI-115, as a treatment for hair loss alongside traditional treatments such as minoxidil and finasteride. The user suggests trying either a 240 mg or 30 mg dose to see if it works.