The conversation is about making a solution of RU58841 using propanediol instead of propylene glycol due to skin irritation. The user seeks advice on whether this substitution is acceptable.
User discusses using trichosol as a vehicle for hair loss treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. They ask about others' experiences and the stability of the solutions.
Pelage Pharmaceuticals is developing PP405, a topical treatment for hair growth, currently in Phase 2a trials. There is skepticism about the company's claims, and no fast-tracking approval timeline has been detailed.
PP405 is expected to be more expensive than finasteride and minoxidil initially due to patent protection, but not as costly as life-saving medications like Ozempic. The price may decrease after the patent expires, but initially, it might be around $100 per month, making it potentially unaffordable for many.
The user seeks alternatives to Propylene Glycol (PG) for delivering topical finasteride due to scalp irritation. They consider using Propanediol 1,3 and ask for other suggestions.
The conversation is about selling KY19382 powder, a novel activator of Wnt/β-catenin signaling, and Kolliphor EL liquid for vehicle formulation. The seller offers worldwide shipping.
Trioxidil's effectiveness is questioned, with users suggesting it might be a marketing gimmick. Alternatives like Lipogaine and MSM are discussed, with some users sharing positive experiences with combining treatments like minoxidil and nanoxidil.
The conversation is about the best vehicle for RU58841, comparing trichosol and Garnier/Vichy Stemoxydine, avoiding propylene glycol (PG) or ethanol due to previous scalp damage. The user is also seeking sources for these products in the EU.
The user is experiencing irritation from using PG with RU58841 and is seeking alternative solutions like K&B in the UK. They report redness, itchiness, and flaky skin from the current treatment.
PP405 shows promise for hair growth with significant results after 4 weeks, but skepticism exists due to its unavailability. Some users are hopeful for its potential, while others express concerns about side effects and market release delays.
The conversation discusses the safety study of PP405, emphasizing that early trials focus on safety rather than efficacy, and that any efficacy data from such a short study should be viewed skeptically. It also highlights that the information released is primarily for securing funding, and that meaningful efficacy results are expected in later phases.
The Phase 2 trial for Pyrilutamide in the US, which started a year after the China trials, and inquiring about any available information on when it will finish. Treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.
A user from China is participating in a clinical trial for Pyrilutamid, a potential hair loss treatment originally developed for prostate cancer. They've experienced no side effects except initial scalp itchiness, and will share results after the year-long trial.
The conversation discusses the sale of a premixed KY19382 solution for research purposes, highlighting previous unsuccessful group buys and the formulation process. Prices and purchasing options for KY19382 solutions and powder are provided.
PP405 is progressing to Phase 2b trials, with results expected in late 2025 or early 2026, and potential Phase 3 trials in 2026. Some users experienced side effects from finasteride and are hopeful for PP405 as an alternative treatment.
The user added P5P (vitamin B6) to their shampoo to reduce scalp itch, which improved significantly. They have been using finasteride for hair loss but are exploring additional treatments like topical antiandrogens and prolactin inhibitors.
OP is considering using Stemoxydine or the Ordinary Multi Peptide Hair Serum as a carrier for topical finasteride, avoiding minoxidil due to palpitations. They plan to crush finasteride pills into a 30 ml solution.
Oral PTD-DBM was discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, but it was deemed ineffective in humans despite promising results in mice. The conversation concluded that trying it without VPA might be unwise.
Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.
The conversation discusses creating a topical catalase solution with phosphate buffered saline, glycerin, and polysorbate 20 for hair loss treatment. The user seeks advice on preparing this solution.
OP wants to increase pyrilutamide concentration from 0.5% to 1% while already using finasteride. Users suggest waiting for a commercial 1% solution and caution against using grey market products.
The user is looking for a PG-free solvent in the UK or EU to make their own pyrilutamide solution for hair loss and is currently using finasteride, considering minoxidil. They hope pyrilutamide will help stabilize their hair loss.
Rotenone, a natural plant extract, may promote hair growth by increasing LDH activity and blocking MPC in the scalp, but it carries risks due to its toxicity. The suggested formulation includes Barbasco extract, DMSO, propylene glycol or PEG-400, ethanol, and a carrier oil.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
Mixing 1ml of topical Minoxidil and Pyrilutamide (2ml total) together in a container and applying immediately is being discussed. The concern is whether this method degrades or compromises the efficacy of either compound.
RU58841 powder is mixed with a 70% ethanol and 30% propylene glycol solution, with some users seeking PG-free alternatives. Minoxidil is also mentioned as a treatment option.
Zinc pyrithione and piroctone olamine are effective for reducing hair shedding, possibly more so than ketoconazole. There is a concern about zinc pyrithione shampoo interfering with minoxidil, but it's unclear if this is proven.
PP405 is a new hair growth stimulant different from Minoxidil, currently in phase 2 trials. Users discuss its potential, safety concerns, and the long wait before it might be available.