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Mixing RU58841 with minoxidil compounded with tretinoin is discussed, with concerns about systemic absorption. Topical dutasteride and finasteride are also mentioned as treatments, with varying personal experiences and concerns about side effects.

The user is seeking advice on which treatment to add to their current regimen for male pattern baldness. They have previously tried Dutasteride, Nizoral, and oral Minoxidil, but experienced continued hair loss. They are specifically asking for experiences with RU58841, Stemoxydine, or Alfatradiol.

The user experienced heart palpitations from using Fin (0.1%) and Min (10%) and is seeking alternatives. Options suggested include PRP or Mesotherapy, with a recommendation to try topical Fin without Min.

Discussing and researching different treatments for hair loss, including RU58841, Dutasteride, Spironolactone, Retin-A, Stemoxydine (Neogenic), Copper peptides, Superoxide Dismutase, NANO, and Eucapil.

Long-term RU58841 users discuss its effectiveness, with some finding it not worth the cost compared to other treatments like Dutasteride and Minoxidil. One user experienced side effects from a chemical company product, while another is regrowing hair after stopping RU58841.

RU58841 is considered effective by some users, but finasteride and minoxidil are commonly used with varying dosages to manage side effects. Users report different experiences with treatments like pyrilutamide, fluridil, and RU58841, with some seeing results and others not.

The conversation discusses the need for a localized 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that only affects the scalp without systemic side effects, similar to pyrilutamide's approach. Current treatments like topical liposomal finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, but concerns about their systemic effects and lack of research are highlighted.

Recruitment for a verteporfin trial and a separate hair cloning trial using verteporfin and other methods is underway, with locations in Jordan, NYC, Beverly Hills, and Memphis. Dr. Bloxham is conducting the hair cloning trial, and interested participants are encouraged to contact him directly.

Verteporfin human clinical trials for hair loss may start in 2025. Additional resources and presentations are available for more information.

The conversation discusses alternatives to RU58841 for hair loss treatment, with suggestions including topical spironolactone, peppermint and rosemary oils, and saw palmetto. The user also considers ordering RU58841 from China but finds it too expensive.

Alfatradiol is discussed as a weak 5ARI and estrogen, not as effective as minoxidil, RU58841, or CB-03-01, but a safe alternative for those who can't use finasteride. Users express frustration over the lack of strong FDA-approved topical antiandrogens for hair loss.

Kintor plans to release pyrilutamide foam and a plant-based Koshine by year-end, with GT20029 progressing in their pipeline. Users are pleased about the absence of propylene glycol (PG) in the new products.

The conversation is about when GT20029, a hair loss treatment, might be available on the grey market, with users discussing the challenges of compounding it and speculating it might be available after phase 2 results, similar to pyri. Specific treatments mentioned are pyri, RU58841, and GT20029.

Some individuals experience side effects from 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and are considering hair transplants without these medications, with some opting for surgeons like Dr. Zarev. Others are exploring alternative treatments and waiting for new medications in development, while some discuss managing side effects through lifestyle changes or additional medications.

The conversation discusses challenges in obtaining finasteride in the Netherlands and explores alternatives like natural DHT blockers and topical finasteride. Suggestions include consulting different doctors or dermatologists and considering cost-effective options like cutting higher-dose tablets.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, specifically Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841. It also inquires about the timeline for the GT20029 phase 3 trial by Kintor.

Oral DHT blockers like finasteride are preferred for their ease of use, effectiveness, and long-term safety data, while topical treatments like RU58841 lack extensive safety data and can be more cumbersome to apply. Oral treatments are generally considered more effective and convenient despite potential side effects.

Spironolactone, finasteride, and dutasteride are discussed for hair maintenance, with concerns about testosterone and side effects like gynecomastia. Spironolactone is noted for use in both bodybuilding and hormone therapy, with low doses considered for minimizing side effects.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

A Spanish doctor shared a video about Verteporfin for hair loss. The conversation mentions Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 as treatments.

The conversation discusses a topical finasteride therapy with hydrocortisone butyrate, estrone base, and breviline. A user suggests oral finasteride as a superior option.

The conversation discusses DHT blocking treatments for hair loss, specifically mentioning Minoxidil, Finasteride, and organic flaxseed oil containing omega-3 fatty acids. It highlights skepticism about alternative treatments and emphasizes the proven effectiveness of Finasteride and Dutasteride.

The conversation discusses the effectiveness of DHT blockers for hair loss, questioning if they are just vitamins or truly effective. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses dissatisfaction with current hair loss treatments that mainly focus on DHT blockers like finasteride and dutasteride. Alternative treatments mentioned include RU58841, pyrilutamide, minoxidil, rosemary oil, and future possibilities like hair cloning.

The user is considering using tretinoin with topical finasteride due to poor absorption and side effects from oral finasteride. They are also contemplating switching to topical dutasteride, while others suggest trying oral minoxidil or lower oral doses.

The conversation is about whether the phase 2 results for pyrilutamide, a potential hair loss treatment, were presented at a dermatology convention and inquiries about the completion of phase 3 trials. Specific treatments mentioned include pyrilutamide.

The user applies a topical solution containing minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, retinoic acid, and hydrocortisone to address scalp inflammation and is considering adding cetirizine to the mix. They are calculating the correct amount of cetirizine to add to their formula and have paused this approach to retry oral minoxidil.

The user has been using finasteride and minoxidil for hair loss but experienced worsening temple recession. They suspect they might be more sensitive to testosterone and are considering trying RU58841 or CB 03 01 as additional treatments.

The user has been using finasteride, minoxidil, and a derma stamp for hair loss for nearly three months and is considering adding tretinoin. They are advised to be patient, as results typically take 6-12 months, and are exploring other options like oral minoxidil and dutasteride.

User on fin, minox, and ketoconazole seeks to add another topical anti-androgen. Hierarchy of effectiveness: 1. RU55841, 2. Fluridil - Eucapil, 3. CB-03-01 - Breezula, 4. Ketoconazole; alfatradiol suggested as addition.