RU58841 powder from a lab supplier was tested at a free drug testing service. The discussion includes using Minoxidil and finasteride for hair loss treatment.
A 32-year-old male started taking 0.5mg of finasteride daily for hair thinning and, after 8 weeks, experienced a 70% reduction in DHT and an increase in estradiol; he is currently in the shedding phase of treatment and questioning if the dosage is correct based on his DHT levels. He began with a lower dose due to already low normal testosterone and DHT levels.
The user is experiencing low libido and mood swings after starting a low dose of topical finasteride. They are considering further blood tests to investigate low testosterone levels and other hormonal factors.
ABS-201 shows promise for male hair regrowth by blocking the prolactin receptor, with higher expected efficacy than current treatments. The discussion also covers dosing differences between macaques and humans for hmi115, highlighting a significant dosage disparity.
A 25-year-old male experiencing hair loss and thinning since age 20 is seeking advice on effective DHT inhibitors. He lists various oral and topical treatments, excluding Minoxidil due to adverse effects.
Pyrilutamide is believed to be more effective than RU58841 and 1 mg finasteride in treating hair loss, with no systemic hormonal effects and the potential to block more than 31% of scalp DHT. It may also antagonize scalp testosterone due to its action as an androgen receptor antagonist.
Hope Medicine received a $28M investment for HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody in phase II trials for treating androgenetic alopecia. Some users are skeptical about its effectiveness, while others find the investment and trial results encouraging.
Concerns about finasteride affecting sperm quality and embryo abnormalities during IVF. The user plans to stop finasteride for 6 months and use minoxidil, microneedling, a red light cap, and saw palmetto shampoo to manage hair loss.
Whey protein isolate may worsen androgenetic alopecia (AGA) due to its potential to increase DHT levels, but finasteride use has helped maintain hair. Some users suggest avoiding protein supplements due to possible contaminants and additives that could affect hair health.
Replicel's results were delayed, but Shiseido might share data at BioJapan on October 11. Users are hopeful for new treatments like RCH-01, potentially eliminating the need for finasteride or minoxidil.
A user experienced decreased free testosterone levels after three months of using finasteride, despite positive results in hair shedding reduction. They are considering switching to topical finasteride and plan to conduct further blood tests, including checking SHBG levels, to understand the hormonal changes.
The conversation discusses using aromatase inhibitors with dutasteride or finasteride for hair loss, which can prevent testosterone from turning into estrogen but may lead to increased DHT and potentially make finasteride less effective. There's concern about proper dosing and side effects like gynecomastia and emotional changes.
KX-826 (Pyrilutamide) 0.5% and 1.0% solutions showed promising results in increasing hair count for male androgenetic alopecia, with the 0.5% dose slightly outperforming the 1% dose. The treatment was well-tolerated with no sexual side effects, but skepticism remains due to past inconsistencies in trial results.
Finasteride may affect prostate sensation and size, with some users reporting easier urination. Concerns exist about prostate shrinkage even at lower doses.
IGFBP‐rP1 shows potential for treating androgenic alopecia by influencing hair cycle transitions. Increasing IGF-1 levels may have similar effects to Minoxidil and 5-AR inhibitors in reducing hair loss.
The conversation is about adding crushed bicalutamide or spironolactone to a topical mix with finasteride and minoxidil to suppress testosterone in hair follicles, similar to what RU58841 does. The user cannot obtain RU58841 in their country and is seeking advice on this alternative approach for hair loss treatment.
Dutasteride at 0.5mg blocks 50% of scalp DHT, while higher doses like 1mg and 2.5mg block more, with 2.5mg blocking up to 80%. Some users report better results with lower doses, and there's confusion about the effectiveness of different dosages on scalp versus serum DHT.
The conversation discusses the potential for high doses of dutasteride to completely inhibit scalp DHT and speculates whether this could cure baldness when combined with a topical antiandrogen. Specific dosages mentioned are 0.5 mg reducing scalp DHT by 55% and 2.5 mg by about 79%.
A user asked if taking a blood test 3 days after starting finasteride would affect the results for Estradiol, FSH, SHBG, Progesterone, and DHEA-S. The conversation is about the timing of blood tests after beginning finasteride treatment.
People are discussing the use of finasteride for hair loss and the importance of hormonal blood testing to monitor effects like changes in DHT and estradiol levels. Some users also mention using minoxidil and the potential side effects of estradiol, such as gynecomastia, especially at higher doses.
The user discusses using Minoxidil for hair loss and is considering RU58841 to reduce excessive oil production. They seek advice on RU58841's effectiveness in blocking sebum production.
Setipiprant and Fevipiprant are questioned for their effectiveness in hair maintenance, with skepticism due to lack of convincing results beyond vellus hair growth. The user is satisfied with Minoxidil and Finasteride but is curious about the potential of DP2 inhibitors.
Hmi115, a prolactin receptor blocker, showed promise for hair growth, but results from Phase 2 trials have not been published. ABS-201, an AI-based analog, is expected to begin trials in December 2025, while commercialization of treatments like PP-405 is anticipated around 2027.
The conversation discusses a last-resort hair loss treatment combining topical finasteride, minoxidil, melatonin, and progesterone, with claims that topical finasteride can inhibit up to 52% of scalp DHT. One reply clarifies that progesterone is not an anti-androgen but has anti-androgenic properties because it competes with androgens for receptors.
A user is curious why their DHT levels are not higher despite using 400mg of testosterone without finasteride, and wonders if zinc or GHK-Cu injections could be influencing this. Another user suggests that more testosterone typically leads to more DHT, but the user might be fortunate not to exceed normal DHT levels.
Dutasteride may cause chronic infertility by reducing semen volume and motility, with concerns about irreversible prostate fibrosis. Users consider switching to finasteride or using treatments like minoxidil and microneedling, weighing hair preservation against fertility.
User experienced high E2 levels after taking finasteride and sought advice on lowering E2 with supplements like Tonkat ali, Fadogia, and Boron. They also used DIM, zinc, and magnesium but avoided using an AI.
New product Tomorrowlabs HSF targets hair loss through HIF pathway indirectly by removing scalp iron. Minoxidil and Stemoxydine also relate to HIF pathway.
The conversation discusses the theory that finasteride-induced erectile dysfunction (ED) is related to blood flow rather than hormonal changes. The user suggests that lowering LDL cholesterol aggressively might improve ED symptoms for those on finasteride.