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The conversation discusses alternative and unorthodox hair loss treatments, including RU58841, nandrolone, and dianabol, as well as theoretical approaches involving high doses of estrogen and selective estrogen receptor modulators. These methods are considered extreme and potentially harmful but are explored for those unable to tolerate traditional 5-alpha reductase inhibitors.

A user shared a DIY recipe for a NutraKos-style amino acid mix as a cost-effective alternative to the expensive product, suggesting it as a complementary supplement for hair loss. Another user argued that proven treatments like finasteride and minoxidil are more reliable, questioning the efficacy of the amino acid mix.

OP has been using alfatradiol and a mix of rosemary, peppermint, and jojoba oils for hair loss, with inconsistent dermapen sessions. They plan to add topical finasteride at 0.025% later.

User discusses Alfatradiol (17a-Estradiol) as a potential hair loss treatment with mixed results. Concerns include low dosage, receptor theory, and possible increased aromatase activity on scalp.

Ethosomes are suggested as an effective delivery method for topical finasteride solutions, requiring the addition of a phospholipid like soya lecithins. The user questions why do-it-yourself solutions don't commonly use ethosomes despite their potential benefits.

Liposomal carriers for topical finasteride offer better targeting, reduced side effects, and less irritation compared to alcohol-based solutions, but availability and cost may limit their use. Minoxidil can dissolve in liposomal carriers, enhancing delivery and stability.

Ursolic acid, found in apple peels, lemongrass, rosemary, and lavender, may have anti-androgen effects similar to finasteride. It might be beneficial for hair health when used with other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

Oleic acid, microneedling, and emu oil are discussed as potential hair growth treatments, with some users expressing skepticism about their effectiveness. Minoxidil and finasteride are recommended as current reliable treatments until more proven solutions are available.

The conversation discusses a botanically derived treatment for androgenetic alopecia using ingredients like saw palmetto, green tea, and evening primrose, showing impressive results over 270 days. Concerns include the study's uncontrolled nature and potential product motivation, with suggestions to enhance absorption through derma rolling.

Taking CoQ10 and fish oil supplements may lead to increased body hair growth and a crawling sensation on the scalp and skin. The user suspects these supplements could be linked to hair growth, possibly due to their effects on heart health and cholesterol management.

Researchers at the University of Virginia discovered a new group of stem cells in hair follicles that could potentially restore hair growth. The findings suggest that activating these stem cells might offer a new way to combat hair loss, though practical treatments are still years away.

Topical finasteride in a liposomal formulation reduces systemic absorption compared to ethanol solutions. The user is seeking sources for such products, noting that popular options like morr-f are not liposomal.

Minoxidil can be effectively delivered through nanoemulsions containing eucalyptol or oleic acid, enhancing its diffusivity and targeting hair follicles. This contradicts the advice against mixing minoxidil with oils in topical formulations.

The conversation discusses using sunflower oil as a carrier oil with rosemary oil for hair loss treatment, as it doesn't leave the scalp overly oily like hemp seed oil. The user also mentions avoiding minoxidil due to side effects and using rosemary oil to reduce hair fall and promote new growth.

The user is considering making a homemade topical finasteride solution using an ethanol-based carrier. They are inquiring if a solution containing partially denatured ethyl alcohol and benzalkonium chloride is suitable.

Fish oil may not significantly improve hair health, but it is beneficial for overall health, especially for those who don't consume fish. Some users report better skin and less frizzy hair with omega-3 supplements, but no clear evidence of hair improvement.

Minoxidil sulfate is considered for those unresponsive to regular minoxidil, with some trying a 10% formulation from Folligenz. Concerns exist about the product's stability and transparency, but some users report positive initial results.

Adipose fat cells and stem cells may help treat hair loss by restoring the scalp's thickness. Treatments like NanoFat injections and Botox are discussed for their potential to promote hair growth.

Capilia Longa and Scandinavian Biolabs are discussed, with skepticism about their effectiveness and value. The conversation suggests avoiding these products due to high cost and perceived lack of results.

The conversation discusses using Rogaine (Minoxidil) and ketoconazole for hair regrowth, with interest in trying a formulation with Azelaic Acid for potentially better results. Concerns about Azelaic Acid's effectiveness and safety, including skin sensitivity to sunburn, are mentioned.

Vitamins and minerals like vitamin E, zinc, and iron may aid hair growth, especially in cases of deficiency. Pumpkin seed oil, saw palmetto, horsetail, and AminoMar show some promise for improving hair health and count.

Omega 3 and 6 supplements are considered ineffective for hair growth by most users, with some suggesting they only help if combined with other nutrients or if the diet is poor. Users generally find traditional treatments like minoxidil and finasteride more effective.

The user is seeking advice on which hair growth oil to add to their current regimen of finasteride, Nizoral, and micro-needling. They are considering oils with ingredients like biotin, caffeine, castor oil, rosemary oil, hemp, coconut, olive, lavender, peppermint, aloe, horsetail, vitamin B5, rosehip seed, and algae.

The conversation discusses the mechanism of action of alfatradiol (17 alpha estradiol) in treating hair loss. It explores theories that it either inhibits 5 alpha reductase to prevent T->DHT conversion or aromatizes scalp T into 17-alpha-estradiol to save hair.

A user discusses using safflower oil as a carrier for rosemary oil to enhance hair growth while using finasteride. They reference studies showing rosemary oil's effectiveness compared to minoxidil and the potential benefits of safflower and amla extracts for hair loss.

The user experienced severe hair shedding despite using oral finasteride, minoxidil, dutasteride, and RU58841, and was diagnosed with Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD). They are considering switching to topical treatments due to the ineffectiveness of their current regimen.

The post discusses a holistic, bioenergetic approach to hair loss, focusing on diet, exercise, and lifestyle changes rather than traditional treatments like finasteride or minoxidil. Key dietary recommendations include fruits, milk, potatoes, butter, coconut oil, eggs, oysters, liver, and gelatin, along with moderate exercise and lifestyle adjustments to reduce stress.

FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

The conversation is about using distilled water as a solvent for topical finasteride to reduce systemic absorption. The user is considering avoiding ethanol and propylene glycol to achieve this.

Elevated bile acids can inhibit the enzyme AKR1C2, leading to increased DHT levels, which may accelerate hair loss in those predisposed to androgenetic alopecia. Treatments mentioned include topical minoxidil and finasteride.