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Creating a liposomal gel with Pyrilutamide for hair loss to reduce systemic effects, similar to Xyon's gel. The discussion includes concerns about ingredient sourcing and the benefits of targeted topical treatments.

The conversation discusses whether creatine causes hair loss for those using finasteride or dutasteride, with some suggesting creatine might increase DHT or upregulate androgen receptors, potentially leading to hair loss. Others argue the evidence is not conclusive, citing limited studies and personal anecdotes, with some avoiding creatine as a precaution.

Stemoxydine's effects on hair growth are uncertain and not well-studied, with users reporting mixed results and concerns about maintaining gains. Some users combine it with 5AR inhibitors like Dutasteride, but results vary, and conditions like lichen planopilaris complicate treatment.

The user is using dutasteride, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss but is allergic to minoxidil. Suggestions include dropping finasteride, increasing dutasteride dosage, and considering alternatives like microneedling, laser treatments, scalp massage, and supplements.

Hair loss discussion includes treatments like hinoki tree oil and procyanidin b2. Experiences and effectiveness of these treatments are shared.

The conversation discusses the differences between PG/Ethanol and KB solutions for RU58841 application, focusing on potential scalp irritation. KB solution is suggested for those allergic to PG, though both contain ethanol which can dry the scalp.

Exosomes from Musely are being discussed as a topical hair loss treatment containing ingredients like latanoprost, caffeine, cetirizine, melatonin, vitamin D3, vitamin E, and biotin. Users are curious about its effectiveness and potential side effects, noting it may take 4-6 months to see results.

A user has been taking finasteride for 7 months and is experiencing watery semen as the only side effect. They are considering taking zinc supplements to improve this condition.

The user switched from finasteride to dutasteride due to side effects and is experiencing fewer side effects with dutasteride, though some scalp itching has occurred. Blood tests show elevated testosterone and estrogen, low DHT, and normal liver and cholesterol levels, leading the user to feel confident in the long-term benefits of dutasteride for hair regrowth.

The conversation discusses the less impressive results of Pyrilutamide (kx-836) in phase 3 compared to phase 2, with a suggestion that a longer study might show more significant results. One user reports personal success with Pyrilutamide, experiencing no further hair loss and gradual regrowth.

KX-826/pyrilutamide is undergoing an additional one-year safety and efficacy trial in China after a six-month study. Some participants speculate on the reasons for the extended trial and discuss the potential of other treatments.

A user is considering adding PRP and mesotherapy to their hair loss treatment and is deciding between two options: Promoitalia, which contains Phosphatidic acid, Riboflavin, and Superoxide dismutase, and the more expensive Melsmon, a human placenta derivative. They seek advice on which option to choose based on effectiveness and scientific backing.

RU58841 can be ordered as a powder and compounded at home, but it should be stored at room temperature to avoid crystallization. Pyraulatmide may follow a similar principle.

The conversation discusses an extensive hair loss treatment regimen including dutasteride, GT20029, RU58841, pyrilutamide, minoxidil, microneedling, ketoconazole shampoo, and experimental compounds. The user humorously describes their approach as a comprehensive strategy to combat hair loss while maintaining hair growth.

RU58841 is preferred over finasteride for blocking DHT on the scalp, especially for those with aggressive MPB. Creatine is associated with increased hair shedding, even when using RU58841.

The user switched from finasteride to dutasteride for hair loss and noticed elevated cholesterol levels, questioning if dutasteride caused this change. They also take Vitamin D, biotin, magnesium, ginkgo biloba, omega-3, and NAC, and are concerned about the impact of these supplements and their health on cholesterol levels.

Exploring hair loss treatments beyond DHT, including Minoxidil, pyruvate, Gt20029 targeting androgen receptors, and vasodilators. Other options like Kx826, adenosine signaling, growth factor topicals, and microneedling are also discussed.

Creatine use with finasteride increased DHT levels, possibly affecting hair loss. The user plans to reduce creatine to stabilize DHT and hair shedding.

Creatine may increase DHT levels, but its impact on hair loss is unclear and not well-studied. Many users report no significant hair loss while using creatine alongside finasteride, though some experience increased shedding.

The user has high DHT levels despite using dutasteride, which may not be effective due to potential damage or spoilage. They are considering a hair transplant if DHT levels don't decrease after two years.

A user experienced severe side effects, including symptoms of congestive heart failure, after using excessive doses of minoxidil for beard growth. They stopped using it due to financial reasons, but still suffer from lingering symptoms and are advised to seek medical attention.

The user is experiencing scalp irritation from using RU58841 with a 70% ethanol and 30% propylene glycol vehicle and is considering switching to a less irritating vehicle, such as 30% ethanol with 70% squalane or emu oil. They are seeking feedback on the effectiveness and irritation levels of these alternative carriers.

The user has been using a strong combination of hair loss treatments for 16 months, including Finasteride, Minoxidil, Dutasteride, and RU-58841, but their hair loss has worsened. They're questioning whether their high testosterone levels or residual scalp DHT are causing further hair loss, with a reply suggesting that even small amounts of DHT can cause hair loss if one is sensitive to it.

The user is experiencing worsening hair loss despite undergoing monthly injectable finasteride, clay masks, laser therapy, and microneedling. They are concerned about severe shedding in areas not typically affected by male pattern baldness and are considering seeking a second opinion.

The conversation is about a user trying to fund lab testing for RU58841 to verify its legitimacy, as there are doubts about its effectiveness. Some users express skepticism about RU58841, suggesting alternatives like KX-826.

OP wants to increase pyrilutamide concentration from 0.5% to 1% while already using finasteride. Users suggest waiting for a commercial 1% solution and caution against using grey market products.

Microneedling with exosomes is being considered for hair regrowth, but concerns exist about their effectiveness and safety, especially since exosomes degrade quickly and lack FDA approval. The user is seeking alternatives for non-responders to minoxidil and dutasteride, as exosomes may not provide additional benefits.

A user from China is participating in a clinical trial for Pyrilutamid, a potential hair loss treatment originally developed for prostate cancer. They've experienced no side effects except initial scalp itchiness, and will share results after the year-long trial.

Dutasteride treatment may decrease sperm concentration, but levels remain above WHO recommendations and recover after discontinuation. The study has limitations, including small sample size and lack of pre-treatment sperm data, and does not assess other fertility factors.

Gym and creatine can cause hair loss by increasing testosterone and androgenic activity. DHT blockers may help some, while others need androgen suppression with topical AA like RU or Pyri.