The conversation discusses concerns about the effectiveness of RU58841 due to high temperatures during delivery. A user reassures that the heat will not affect its efficacy.
The experiences of users who have used RU58841 to treat hair loss, including both positive and negative effects. Some side effects reported include chest pain, joint pain in the hands, tinnitus, and increased heartbeat.
A user started using RU58841 for hair loss and experienced anxiety and physical discomfort. Other users suggested avoiding the treatment due to similar side effects and recommended alternative treatments like pyri.
The conversation discusses using 23andme to determine if someone might respond well to minoxidil for hair loss treatment, and mentions the user's personal experience with micro-needling and minoxidil.
RU58841 lacks FDA approval due to financial and safety concerns, including potential cardiological side effects. The company abandoned further research, and users report adverse effects like heart palpitations and gynecomastia.
RU58841's potential side effects, particularly heart palpitations, are debated, with some attributing them to contamination with minoxidil. Users report mixed experiences, with some seeing no side effects and others cautioning about the lack of reliable data on RU58841's safety.
Akinfenrawr experienced negative side effects from oral finasteride and RU58841, and is seeking alternative hair loss treatments. They discuss various options, including raloxifene, oral dutasteride, liposomal finasteride, Breezula, Pyrilutamide, SM04554, and sulforaphane, but have concerns about efficacy, availability, and cost.
Some people have low sulfotransferase enzyme levels, affecting their response to minoxidil. Lifestyle factors, genetics, and diet, like MSM intake, might influence these enzyme levels.
The drugs RU-58841, Pyrilutamide (KX-826), Apalutamide, Enzalutamide, and Darolutamide, which are nonsteroidal antiandrogens (NSAA), potentially impacting male fertility. Pyrilutamide, similar to Enzalutamide, may have reversible effects on fertility.
RU58841 is discussed as a hair loss treatment, with users considering lower doses like 2.5% to reduce costs. Some users suggest that if already blocking DHT, lower doses might still be effective unless there's high sensitivity to DHT.
A user ingested RU58841 orally and experienced severe heart and breathing issues, requiring emergency medical assistance. They concluded that MV supplements is a legitimate supplier but warned of the serious side effects.
RU58841 is not FDA approved, and users are discussing its availability and legitimacy in India, with some mentioning brands like Vantanex and Capomil. One user warns about the risk of gyno from RU58841, advising to stop use at the first sign of sensitivity.
The user mixes their own RU58841 solution and found that increasing the ethanol content improved absorption and reduced scalp itching. A study on minoxidil showed that penetration increased with higher ethanol concentrations, reaching maximum penetration at 90% ethanol.
Genetic variations influence how people respond to dutasteride for hair loss, with some benefiting more from finasteride. Dutasteride is effective for most, but genetic differences may cause it to be less effective for some.
RU58841 may cause heart-related side effects like palpitations and chest pain, though evidence is mostly anecdotal. Users report mixed experiences, with some stopping due to side effects and others using it without issues, but concerns about its safety and sourcing remain.
RU58841 and Minoxidil can cause heart-related side effects like chest pain and heart racing. Pyrilutamide is suggested as a safer alternative, though it's new and costly.
The user is concerned about safely using RU58841 around cats and wonders if applying it 2 hours before a shower is as effective as leaving it overnight. The discussion focuses on the absorption time and effectiveness of RU58841.
The user is experiencing scalp irritation from using RU58841 with a 70% ethanol and 30% propylene glycol vehicle and is considering switching to a less irritating vehicle, such as 30% ethanol with 70% squalane or emu oil. They are seeking feedback on the effectiveness and irritation levels of these alternative carriers.
Stopping RU58841 may result in losing only the hair gained from it, unlike stopping Minoxidil, which can lead to losing more hair. The discussion compares the dependency effects of RU58841 and Minoxidil on hair.
Two Chinese suppliers provided legitimate RU58841, confirmed through a free drug testing service. The vendors were Shaanxi Greenyo Biotech and Lyphar, found on Made-in-China.
The conversation discusses arranging an interview with the developers of RU58841 to clarify its safety and reasons for halted research, with some users expressing concerns about potential risks and others citing financial reasons for the discontinuation of studies. Specific treatments mentioned include RU58841, minoxidil, and finasteride.
The user shared minimal results from using JXL-069 for hair loss, noting a slight lengthening of vellus hairs and plans to switch to a prodrug variant due to limited effectiveness. They also mentioned using finasteride and minoxidil, which have plateaued in results.
A user increased their RU58841 treatment from 5% to 8% to combat hair loss and is questioning the effectiveness of the higher dosage. Another user shared their extensive hair loss treatment regimen, suggesting that while 8% RU58841 might not significantly change results, it's worth trying as individual responses vary.
Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.
The relative strength of Pyrilutamide compared to RU58841 in terms of androgen receptor binding affinity. It has been noted that Pyrilutamide is 4x stronger than RU58841, with a higher binding affinity than DHT itself.
The conversation discusses concerns that Anagenic's version of GT20029 might not be as effective or safe as Kintor's, with comparisons to issues faced by pyrilutamide. The chemical structure of the drug has been published.
The user was rejected from participating in a clinical trial for an extended-release oral Minoxidil due to having rheumatoid arthritis, despite initially being accepted. They had stopped using Dutasteride and Minoxidil to qualify but continued using other treatments like RU58841 and red light therapy.
The conversation is about comparing the effectiveness of 5% RU58841 and 0.5% pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment. The user is asking if the higher concentration of RU58841 makes it stronger than the lower dose of pyrilutamide.
TWIST-1 gene's role in hair loss and potential as a treatment target. Inhibiting TWIST-1 may prolong hair growth and reduce hair follicle sensitivity to DHT.