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The conversation discusses the potential updates on the pp405 trial for hair loss, with completion expected by December 2025. Participants express skepticism about new treatments, suggesting continued use of finasteride, while others hope for innovative solutions beyond current medications.

RU58841 is used for hair loss, with mixed effectiveness and potential side effects like heart issues. Some users find it effective, while others see no results; alternatives like finasteride and dutasteride are also mentioned.

After a year on dutasteride and oral minoxidil, the user experienced significant hair regrowth, improving from Norwood 2 to almost Norwood 1. They added RU58841, microneedling, rosemary oil, GHK-Cu, and annurca apple supplement to their regimen and are now noticing hair loss in the temple area.

Pyluritamide and RU58841 are compared for effectiveness in addition to dutasteride for hair loss treatment. Reddit users report great results with RU58841, but data suggests pyluritamide may have better affinity.

The conversation discusses the less impressive results of Pyrilutamide (kx-836) in phase 3 compared to phase 2, with a suggestion that a longer study might show more significant results. One user reports personal success with Pyrilutamide, experiencing no further hair loss and gradual regrowth.

The user reports positive results using a multi-peptide serum for hair density, combined with finasteride and melatonin, after stopping minoxidil. They experienced hair regrowth after previously losing hair despite using finasteride and minoxidil.

The user is experiencing ongoing hair loss despite using a comprehensive treatment regimen including dutasteride, oral minoxidil, cyproterone acetate, transdermal estradiol, and topical bicalutamide. They suspect cyproterone acetate may be worsening their hair loss and are considering switching to injection monotherapy.

A 19-year-old is experiencing excessive hair shedding despite using minoxidil, finasteride, and dutasteride. They are seeking advice on why these treatments aren't working and if their current regimen is appropriate.

The conversation is about someone who has been using finasteride and minoxidil for over three years without satisfactory results for hair thinning. They have started using dutasteride and added RU58841 seven months ago but have not seen improvements yet.

A 22-year-old male with hair loss is considering treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and derma rolling after being diagnosed with MPB, vitamin D deficiency, and dandruff. He seeks advice on whether these treatments can realistically improve his hair density and achieve a healthier NW2.

The conversation discusses a new product from Actifolic, which combines RU58841 and GHK-CU for hair loss treatment. The participants are considering whether it's worth trying.

A user is interested in Absci's AI-driven antibody platform, ABS-201, for treating androgenetic alopecia, which shows promising preclinical results and potential for hair regrowth and pigmentation restoration. However, concerns are raised about the drug's development timeline and its advantages compared to existing treatments.

The user is experiencing diffuse thinning and inflammation despite using 2.5mg dutasteride daily, ciclopirox, and ketoconazole shampoos. They are considering treatments like hydroxychloroquine and JAK inhibitors due to suspected scarring alopecia and have faced challenges in obtaining a scalp biopsy.

The conversation discusses the potential role of prolactin in hair loss and mentions treatments like HMI115, mucuna pruriens, Zinc, and B6 P5P for lowering prolactin levels. It also touches on the use of natural compounds and the lack of studies due to funding issues.

The conversation discusses the duration of hair shedding caused by RU58841. The user is stressed and seeking information on how long the shedding phase lasts.

The conversation is about choosing an anti-androgen for hair loss treatment, with options being alfatradiol and pyrilutamide. Alfatradiol is considered a better choice due to its established use, while pyrilutamide is more experimental.

PP405 is discussed as a potential adjunct therapy for hair loss, with skepticism about its effectiveness and trial results. Users mention combining it with finasteride and minoxidil for better results, while others debate the root causes of hair loss and the limitations of current treatments.

The user experienced a sudden decrease in hair density after starting alfatradiol while already using finasteride. Another user mentioned that initial shedding can occur with hair loss treatments, but it may not last long.

The conversation discusses the potential for developing a biologic "DHT sponge" to neutralize DHT in the bloodstream as a treatment for hair loss, suggesting it could be more targeted and have fewer side effects than current treatments like finasteride and dutasteride. Concerns include the complexity, cost, and potential side effects of such a treatment, as well as skepticism about its feasibility and market interest.

MinoxidilMax is now selling a product called Ruderma, which contains RU58841, a chemical used for hair loss treatment. Some users question the legitimacy of the company, while others discuss the standard concentration of RU58841 and mention that both men and women use finasteride for hair loss.

User discusses group buy for finerenone, a third-gen mineralocorticoid antagonist for hair loss treatment. Finerenone inhibits TGFb, NOX, and ROS, and improves renal and cardiac function; topical dose should be no more than 10mg per day.

The conversation discusses using B6 and Zinc to inhibit 5ar activity, similar to Fin and Dut. Minoxidil is mentioned as a supplementary treatment.

RU58841, combined with Dutasteride and topical Minoxidil, is helping users slow hair loss. Long-term users report positive results without significant side effects.

Kintor Pharma successfully dosed the first patient in a Phase II trial for KX-826 for acne vulgaris. Users are more interested in results for male pattern baldness (MPB).

Pyrilutamide's effectiveness is questioned due to overstated claims and previous trial ineffectiveness, with some users opting for finasteride instead. Despite skepticism, some consider adding pyrilutamide to their regimen alongside treatments like bicalutamide.

A user started using RU58841 before finasteride for hair loss and is now considering stopping RU58841 while continuing finasteride. They are asking if others have maintained hair gains from RU58841 after stopping it, but one response suggests it's risky to stop RU58841 if they want to keep their hair gains.

PP405 is expected to finish Phase 2 trials in late 2025, with potential market availability around 2028-2029 if all goes well. Current treatments like finasteride and minoxidil are still popular, while new options like KX-826 and Breezula are anticipated soon.

Copper peptides, specifically GHK-Cu, are discussed as a potential addition to hair loss treatments, possibly working synergistically with Minoxidil to convert vellus hair into terminal hair. The effectiveness and credibility of copper peptides are questioned due to the lack of widespread discussion and potential conflict of interest from the product's creator.

The conversation discusses alternative and unorthodox hair loss treatments, including RU58841, nandrolone, and dianabol, as well as theoretical approaches involving high doses of estrogen and selective estrogen receptor modulators. These methods are considered extreme and potentially harmful but are explored for those unable to tolerate traditional 5-alpha reductase inhibitors.

RU58841 5% is theoretically equivalent to 2mg of dutasteride for hair loss treatment, with RU58841 offering higher potential but more variability due to absorption issues. Users discuss the effectiveness of RU58841 and dutasteride, with some preferring dutasteride for consistent results and others finding success with RU58841.