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Natural vitamins like pumpkin seed oil, saw palmetto, and ecklonia cava are discussed for their potential to lower DHT levels. They may work similarly to finasteride but are significantly weaker.

A 51-year-old woman switched from Minoxidil to Maneup, a copper peptide treatment, experiencing initial hair loss but later regrowth with different hair texture. Users debated Maneup's effectiveness, with some considering it alongside finasteride.

L. reuteri, a probiotic, is being explored for its potential benefits in treating androgenic alopecia, possibly enhancing finasteride's effects and reducing inflammation. The user combines this with finasteride, oral minoxidil, and other supplements, noting some improvement in hair loss.

Ethosomes are suggested as an effective delivery method for topical finasteride solutions, requiring the addition of a phospholipid like soya lecithins. The user questions why do-it-yourself solutions don't commonly use ethosomes despite their potential benefits.

The conversation discusses the potential for developing a biologic "DHT sponge" to neutralize DHT in the bloodstream as a treatment for hair loss, suggesting it could be more targeted and have fewer side effects than current treatments like finasteride and dutasteride. Concerns include the complexity, cost, and potential side effects of such a treatment, as well as skepticism about its feasibility and market interest.

The conversation discusses the potential benefits of creating a hydrophobic version of finasteride to reduce systemic side effects while maintaining scalp health. It compares this idea to fluridil, which is designed to be hydrophobic and has less systemic absorption.

The user is exploring hair loss treatments in China, currently using finasteride and minoxidil, and is concerned about seborrheic dermatitis. Clinics are recommending selenium sulfide, doxycycline, and mesotherapy ampoules like PT88/PT66 or SP88/SP66, but the user is unsure about their effectiveness.

FOL-005 claims to be more effective than Minoxidil and Finasteride but lacks anti-DHT properties, leading to potential reduced efficacy over time. Concerns are raised about misleading marketing and the safety of alternative treatments like Pyrilutamide and Clascoterone.

The conversation is about the effectiveness of topical azelaic acid in blocking DHT for hair loss treatment. Specific treatments discussed include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

Ursolic acid, found in apple peels, lemongrass, rosemary, and lavender, may have anti-androgen effects similar to finasteride. It might be beneficial for hair health when used with other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

PP405 is discussed as a potential alternative to finasteride, but its effectiveness and market availability are uncertain. Users share experiences with finasteride, minoxidil, and topical treatments, noting side effects and application techniques.

A user experienced severe scalp itching with MPB and found Nizoral ineffective. A doctor diagnosed seborrheic eczema and prescribed Betacap, which relieved the itching.

Pyrilutamide, a possible hair loss treatment, ceasing to be traded due to patent laws; and the hope that this indicates it may be a legitimate treatment.

Exosomes are being discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, with some users skeptical about their effectiveness and stability. There is interest in different types of exosomes, including those derived from centella asiatica, and comparisons are made to other treatments like finasteride.

Topical dutasteride may have limited absorption due to its higher molecular mass compared to finasteride, potentially affecting its efficacy in suppressing DHT locally. Microneedling might enhance dutasteride absorption, possibly offering stronger local DHT suppression with fewer systemic effects.

Two Chinese suppliers provided legitimate RU58841, confirmed through a free drug testing service. The vendors were Shaanxi Greenyo Biotech and Lyphar, found on Made-in-China.

The user resumed using topical finasteride after a two-week break and will update on side effects like water retention and gynecomastia in a month. They are also starting DIM and zinc.

Hope Medicine received a $28M investment for HMI-115, a monoclonal antibody in phase II trials for treating androgenetic alopecia. Some users are skeptical about its effectiveness, while others find the investment and trial results encouraging.

PP405 is a safer alternative to JXL069 for hair loss treatment because it penetrates the skin effectively and degrades in the blood, avoiding systemic toxicity. JXL069, when forced into the body, can cause dangerous side effects like lactic acidosis due to its inability to degrade safely.

A 28 year old using a hair loss prevention protocol to restore thinning hair, which includes finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, stemoxydine, alopecin, nizoral shampoo and microneedling; the user is now adding pyrilutamide solution to the regimen with the hope of improving their results. RU58841 was also ordered but not yet used.

The user experienced a slight decrease in hair shedding and scalp itch, and reduced sebum production using Pyrilutamide, but stopped due to chest pain, breathing difficulties, and heart issues. They felt normal a week after discontinuing and doubted FDA approval for the drug.

A user shared a list of natural supplements they tried that did not stop their male pattern baldness (MPB), including vitamin D, biotin, and various oils. The conversation includes skepticism and jokes about one of the methods, injecting jellyfish mucus into testicles, and mixed opinions on the effectiveness of natural treatments.

The conversation discusses hair loss linked to BDNF-increasing nootropics like Semax and Lions Mane. Suggested topical treatments include capsaicin, beta-glucan, and ginseng to counteract TGF-B activation.

Concerns about metal particles from dermapen or dermaroller needles potentially entering the skin and lymph nodes, similar to tattoo needles. Discussion includes the possibility of using Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss treatment.

KX-826 failed Phase III trials due to high placebo effects, patient compliance issues, COVID-19 side effects, and detection method deviations. KX-826 is now marketed as a cosmetic and approved for combination with Minoxidil.

Pyrilutamide's systemic degradation is unclear, unlike fluridil, which becomes inactive in the body. The discussion focuses on whether pyrilutamide shares this property.

User asks about "The Ordinary - Multipeptide serum" for hair loss, containing Redensyl, Procapil, Capaxyl, Baicapil, and Anagain. Reply states it improves hair appearance but doesn't regrow hair.

Concerns about CosmeRNA safety mechanisms and potential side effects. Discussion includes comparisons to Fluridil and questions about nanoparticle specificity and siRNA stability.

The user shared progress pictures after 5 months of using 1mg finasteride, weekly 1.5mm microneedling, and daily 2mg copper peptide injections. They discussed their hair loss treatment and results.

GT20029 and PP405 are discussed as potential alternatives or complements to finasteride for hair loss treatment. GT20029 is entering phase 3 trials, while PP405 is seen as promising for regrowing hair and possibly eliminating the need for other treatments.