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How androgens, including testosterone, can cause hair follicles to miniaturize in people with sensitivity to androgens, and treatments such as finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, RU58841, or fluridil may be used in combination for long-term treatment.

A 21-year-old experienced hormone changes after using self-made topical finasteride for hair loss, including a 20% decrease in DHT, a 47% increase in testosterone, and a 39% increase in estradiol. The user previously used minoxidil and microneedling but is now seeking ways to balance hormones, possibly through supplements or dosage adjustments.

The "DHT itch" is real and likely due to inflammation at the hair follicle, exacerbated by increased testosterone or androgens. Treatments mentioned include dutasteride, minoxidil, finasteride, and various topical solutions.

The conversation discusses doubts about the effectiveness of topical finasteride for hair loss, suggesting that DHT could be produced elsewhere in the body and affect the scalp. It proposes that androgen receptor antagonists like spironolactone and clascoterone might be more effective as they could prevent this potential bypass mechanism.

Bicalutamide blocks androgen receptors, preventing testosterone and DHT from binding, which can help with hair loss but may cause feminization. It is not recommended for those who do not want feminization effects.

The user experienced excessive scalp oiliness and high testosterone levels after switching from finasteride to dutasteride. They plan to manage their condition with finasteride and are considering spironolactone to reduce testosterone and restore dry skin.

The conversation discusses the need for a localized 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that only affects the scalp without systemic side effects, similar to pyrilutamide's approach. Current treatments like topical liposomal finasteride and dutasteride are mentioned, but concerns about their systemic effects and lack of research are highlighted.

Increased Malassezia and Cutibacterium in the scalp microbiome are linked to higher sebum production and inflammation in androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Treatments include ciclopirox shampoo, benzoyl peroxide shampoo, clobetasol propionate, calcipotriol, minoxidil, finasteride, and dutasteride.

The conversation discusses the potential use of thermal paper receipts, which contain estrogen, as a treatment for hair loss. Participants humorously debate its effectiveness compared to established treatments like Minoxidil and finasteride.

Availability of topical anti-androgens, especially RU58841, in Australia. Issues with customs seizures and lack of credible local sources.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, including dutasteride, oral minoxidil, finasteride, and potential additions like topical finasteride, minoxidil, micro-needling, and topical anti-androgens such as RU58841. The effectiveness and worth of these treatments, including localized dutasteride mesotherapy, are considered.

The user received hormone test results showing normal estradiol and testosterone levels, low SHBG, and normal free androgen index. They are considering starting finasteride but are concerned due to being slightly overweight.

A 30-year-old man experienced significant hair regrowth and improved libido after using finasteride and dutasteride for androgenetic alopecia, with no adverse effects. He plans to reduce dutasteride dosage when trying to conceive and has been using topical minoxidil since 2015.

A 22-year-old male uses dutasteride, a serum with 10% minoxidil and 0.5% finasteride, and microneedling for diffuse androgenetic alopecia. Progress pictures show changes from July 2025 to February 2026.

People discussed their experiences with anti-androgens for hair loss, mentioning side effects like chest pains with RU58841 and skepticism due to lack of safety data, while considering Fluridil as a potential addition to treatment. Some users expressed reluctance to use these chemicals.

There is no reliable ranking for the effectiveness of topical anti-androgens like Fluridil, RU58841, and Pyrilutamide, with limited studies available. Some users suggest Pyrilutamide may be promising based on ongoing trials, while Fluridil combined with finasteride has shown positive results for some individuals.

The conversation discusses using finasteride, dutasteride, RU58841, and testosterone to combat hair loss and block DHT, with some users expressing concerns about side effects and vegan options for medication. The discussion also touches on personal experiences with hormone treatments and the desire to maintain a youthful appearance.

FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

The conversation is about finding affordable topical anti-androgens for hair loss. The user is currently using finasteride, dutasteride, and oral minoxidil, and is advised that additional topical treatments may not be necessary.

The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.

A 23-year-old has been using finasteride, dutasteride, and spironolactone to combat hair loss and hormonal acne, with mixed results and concerns about side effects. The user is experimenting with spironolactone despite its potential risks, hoping for skin and body hair improvements.

A 19-year-old male with no family history of androgenetic alopecia (AGA) is experiencing hair loss and considering using a topical minoxidil and finasteride mixture. Despite low vitamin D levels and normal DHT serum levels, he seeks confirmation of AGA before starting treatment.

User on fin, minox, and ketoconazole seeks to add another topical anti-androgen. Hierarchy of effectiveness: 1. RU55841, 2. Fluridil - Eucapil, 3. CB-03-01 - Breezula, 4. Ketoconazole; alfatradiol suggested as addition.

Researching and developing an effective local antagonist to block the androgen receptors for hair loss, as opposed to using DHT synthesis inhibitors that lower serum DHT levels. Several treatments such as CosmeRNA and Pyrilutamide are currently in development or undergoing trials.

Hair loss treatments discussed include Minoxidil, Finasteride, RU58841, Alfatradiol, and Eucapil. Topical treatments must penetrate skin and may go systemic, with effectiveness varying.

A 20 year old male discussing his hair loss regimen, which includes using topical dutasteride, rogaine, RU58841, minoxidil and Avodart pills as well as scalp massage, stabbing head with steak knife, counting shed hairs under a hair net and sending them to a lab for analysis. Suggestions from other users include scalping method and switching to saw palmetto and zinc supplements.

Topical dutasteride with microneedling and mesotherapy dutasteride injections are effective treatments for androgenetic alopecia in both men and women. These methods offer promising alternatives to oral therapies with potentially fewer systemic side effects.

Dutasteride is associated with increased blood glucose, HbA1c, LDL cholesterol, and liver enzyme activity, potentially leading to diabetes, NAFLD, and liver metabolism changes. The conversation highlights concerns about these adverse effects and calls for more studies, including on finasteride.

The user has high free testosterone and is still experiencing hair loss despite taking dutasteride and oral minoxidil for over three years. They are considering adding a topical anti-androgen like RU58841.

Topical spironolactone is available in the UK for men to block androgen receptors locally. The user seeks opinions or experiences from others who have used it.