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The conversation is about using a Dr. Pen for microneedling on a widow's peak, with advice to use a depth of 1.25mm and hold it in place for 10 seconds. The user is also using minoxidil.

The conversation discusses using high molecular weight hyaluronic acid after microneedling to form a protective barrier, though it's considered expensive and offers marginal improvement. Users share experiences with different microneedling tools like derma rollers, dermastamps, and Dr. Pen, with some opting not to use any products on the scalp.

A user tried microneedling for hair loss with a Dr. Pen at 0.8 mm and experienced bleeding, questioning if the intensity was too much. Others suggested a less aggressive approach, and one mentioned finasteride as a helpful treatment without side effects.

Microneedling before applying topical finasteride or dutasteride may enhance their effectiveness by increasing local absorption in the scalp, despite concerns about systemic absorption. Users discuss combining this method with oral treatments and minoxidil, noting potential benefits and side effects.

Setipiprant and Fevipiprant are questioned for their effectiveness in hair maintenance, with skepticism due to lack of convincing results beyond vellus hair growth. The user is satisfied with Minoxidil and Finasteride but is curious about the potential of DP2 inhibitors.

A female user is seeking a DHT blocker without Selenium or Zinc due to hair breakage and is currently using Saw Palmetto, Nature's Bounty Hair, Skin and Nails, Pumpkin seed oil, Dermastamp, and Pura D'or products. She has tried Minoxidil without success and is considering Finasteride but prefers natural options first.

Topical finasteride in a liposomal formulation reduces systemic absorption compared to ethanol solutions. The user is seeking sources for such products, noting that popular options like morr-f are not liposomal.

A peptide-based delivery system for finasteride shows promise in reducing systemic side effects while maintaining hair growth effectiveness. Combining this with other treatments like minoxidil and RU58841 could enhance results with lower systemic absorption.

Pp405 is discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, with humorous suggestions about rectal administration for increased effectiveness. Users joke about unconventional methods and express willingness to try anything for hair regrowth.

Oral PTD-DBM was discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, but it was deemed ineffective in humans despite promising results in mice. The conversation concluded that trying it without VPA might be unwise.

The conversation discusses making topical finasteride at home, questioning the necessity of removing the pill's coating before use. Users suggest that the coating isn't harmful, and finasteride dissolves in ethanol, with some recommending filtering out the coating and fillers.

The conversation discusses choosing between titanium fixed needles and a pen with disposable needles for hair loss treatment at a 1.5mm depth. The preference is for disposable needles for better sanitization.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, including finasteride, microneedling, minoxidil, and PTD-DBM. The user has not noticed significant regrowth and is considering cost-effective options like valproic acid.

The conversation is about finding a safe carrier for topical antiandrogens like finasteride, kx-826, RU58841, and dutasteride to minimize systemic absorption and side effects. The user experiences side effects from these treatments and is seeking advice on carriers that reduce these effects.

PP405 is seen as a potential breakthrough for converting vellus hairs to terminal hairs, with users expressing both hope and skepticism. It is compared to treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, with discussions on side effects and marketing concerns.

Topical finasteride with hydroxypropyl chitosan shows significantly less serum absorption and minimal DHT reduction compared to oral finasteride. Users need the specific chitosan formulation to avoid side effects seen with regular ethanol+PG solutions.

Pelage Pharmaceuticals is developing PP405, a topical treatment for hair growth, currently in Phase 2a trials. There is skepticism about the company's claims, and no fast-tracking approval timeline has been detailed.

Users discuss making topical finasteride solutions by dissolving crushed tablets in ethanol and propylene glycol, with concerns about residue affecting effectiveness. They also mention using minoxidil and oral finasteride, noting some hair regrowth and no side effects from topical use.

The conversation discusses preventing infection from derma stamping for hair loss treatment, with suggestions to reduce needle depth and consider alternatives like tretinoin. The user experienced irritation possibly from zinc chloride and stopped using the shampoo and derma stamping.

PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.

The user is considering topical Saw Palmetto or Pumpkin Seed Oil due to sensitivity to finasteride and cost issues. They also use dermastamping for Minoxidil absorption and seek advice on timing to avoid systemic absorption.

Concerns about metal particles from dermapen or dermaroller needles potentially entering the skin and lymph nodes, similar to tattoo needles. Discussion includes the possibility of using Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss treatment.

The conversation is about using natural DHT blockers like saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, and stinging nettle extract for hair loss. Saw palmetto is noted to potentially halt mild hair loss.

The conversation discusses challenges in obtaining finasteride in the Netherlands and explores alternatives like natural DHT blockers and topical finasteride. Suggestions include consulting different doctors or dermatologists and considering cost-effective options like cutting higher-dose tablets.

Finasteride pills don't fully dissolve in a DIY topical solution due to fillers, resulting in residue. Users suggest shaking well before application and note that commercial solutions appear clearer.

The conversation discusses using a microneedling device on the face after using it on the scalp, with suggestions to use a depth of 0.2mm for facial treatments. Caution and proper sterilization are advised due to the sensitivity of facial skin.

The user is experiencing irritation from using PG with RU58841 and is seeking alternative solutions like K&B in the UK. They report redness, itchiness, and flaky skin from the current treatment.

Silicone and dimethicone in shampoos may hinder Minoxidil absorption, while Tretinoin and microneedling can enhance its efficacy. Users discuss applying Tretinoin before Minoxidil, waiting for it to dry first.

Topical finasteride concentrations and application amounts are debated, with concerns that mainstream solutions may use arbitrary concentrations. A 0.25% solution with a specific application method is suggested as more appropriate than higher concentrations.