Topical finasteride concentrations are likely much higher than necessary for effective follicular DHT suppression, with current standards being 100-1000 times above the theoretical minimum. Lower concentrations (0.001-0.0025%) might still work locally while minimizing systemic exposure.
Hair loss treatments, including PP405, minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841, with hopes for future solutions. Participants discuss the emotional impact of hair loss and consider alternatives like hair transplants or acceptance.
The conversation discusses DIY cosmetic procedures like PRP, mesotherapy, and micro-needling, with some users experimenting with Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss. It highlights a community of mostly older women performing these treatments themselves.
Finasteride has no effect on the user's estradiol levels, and body fat may influence aromatization. The user is on testosterone replacement therapy and uses everyday injections to manage high RBC count, with plans to measure DHT, DHEA-S, and pregnenolone levels.
Finasteride is the most effective treatment for reducing DHT and addressing hair loss compared to fish oil and saw palmetto. Topical treatments like RU58841 and minoxidil are also discussed, but finasteride remains the most effective option.
A recent publication suggests that the flavonoids eriocitrin and silymarin may be more effective than finasteride in binding to the enzyme responsible for hair loss. People in the conversation are skeptical about the effectiveness and safety of these flavonoids until tested on humans, and some discuss their personal experiences with other treatments.
User experienced high E2 levels after taking finasteride and sought advice on lowering E2 with supplements like Tonkat ali, Fadogia, and Boron. They also used DIM, zinc, and magnesium but avoided using an AI.
A user is experiencing facial bloating from low-dose topical finasteride due to high estradiol levels and is seeking advice on using DIM to manage this issue, including dosage and brand recommendations.
Finasteride and dutasteride are discussed for hair loss, with concerns about their effects on neurosteroids and potential side effects like depression. Alternatives like topical estrogen and lifestyle changes are considered, with varying opinions on mental health and hair regrowth.
The user experienced initial hair density improvement with finasteride, but later felt scalp pain and a plateau in results. They added alfatradiol for scalp inflammation and divi scalp serum to their routine, and are curious if others have similar experiences.
The conversation discusses using aromatase inhibiting supplements like DIM and Grape Seed extract while on finasteride for hair loss treatment. Users share their experiences and opinions on combining these supplements with finasteride.
The user experienced hair shedding after increasing minoxidil from 5% to 7% with latanoprost, possibly causing telogen effluvium. They are on HRT with Lupron, Estradiol, and Raloxifene, and are concerned about the shedding's duration.
The conversation is about the debate over the existence of Post-Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) and its symptoms, with some users skeptical about PFS and others discussing side effects like erectile dysfunction and gynecomastia from hair loss treatments like finasteride. Specific treatments mentioned include finasteride, viagra, and a joke about using a popsicle stick for erectile support.
The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.
A user is considering adding PRP and mesotherapy to their hair loss treatment and is deciding between two options: Promoitalia, which contains Phosphatidic acid, Riboflavin, and Superoxide dismutase, and the more expensive Melsmon, a human placenta derivative. They seek advice on which option to choose based on effectiveness and scientific backing.
The user shared their 5-year hair loss journey, initially using a product called Triphasic Progressive by Rene Furterer, which gave good results. Later, they switched to FDA-approved medications finasteride and minoxidil, which also helped, but they noticed the most significant progress with Triphasic. They're considering trying it again if minoxidil doesn't show improvements.
Finasteride and dutasteride have potential risks, including post-finasteride syndrome, but are commonly used for hair loss. RU58841, minoxidil, and needling are suggested as alternatives, though all treatments carry risks.
The user plans to switch from minoxidil to finasteride or dutasteride for hair loss, while managing hormones with aromatase inhibitors and SHBG blockers. They seek advice on the best options for these treatments, considering past side effects and future therapies.
Users discuss using pyrilutamide for hair loss, seeking alternatives to 5AR inhibitors. They mention using minoxidil, ketoconazole shampoo, and RU58841.
Users discuss their experiences with finasteride, expressing regret over delayed use due to misinformation and sharing mixed outcomes, including side effects and benefits. Treatments mentioned include finasteride, dutasteride, and minoxidil.
PP405 is discussed as a potential adjunct therapy for hair loss, with skepticism about its effectiveness and trial results. Users mention combining it with finasteride and minoxidil for better results, while others debate the root causes of hair loss and the limitations of current treatments.
The conversation discusses using estradiol and its derivatives for hair loss without causing feminization. Users mention alternatives like alfatradiol, topical 17b-Estradiol, and DIM (Diindolylmethane).
A user is seeking hair loss treatments without using systemic DHT blockers like finasteride due to side effects. Suggestions include clascoterone (not FDA approved), pyrilutamide, RU58841, and low-dose topical finasteride, with a recommendation to consult a doctor.
Fluridil was abandoned due to its weak effectiveness and low binding affinity to the androgen receptor, making it less competitive against DHT and testosterone. Users discuss its limited results compared to other treatments like pyrilutamide and RU58841.
A user is experiencing hair thinning and is using a peptide with oleanic acid as a DHT blocker, along with minoxidil, while waiting for topical finasteride. They plan to use a combination of minoxidil, finasteride, dermastamp, ketoconazole, and scalp massages, but are advised to stick to proven treatments like finasteride and minoxidil.
The conversation is about alternatives to finasteride for hair loss, with suggestions including fluridil, oral minoxidil, alfatradiol, and cb-03-01. Concerns about finasteride's side effects, including potential breast cancer risk, are also discussed.
PP405 is discussed as a potential alternative to finasteride, but its effectiveness and market availability are uncertain. Users share experiences with finasteride, minoxidil, and topical treatments, noting side effects and application techniques.
User is concerned about starting minoxidil due to potential effects on collagen production and skin aging. They have been using finasteride for almost 2 months.
The user is considering minoxidil, clascoterone, and fluridil for hair loss, avoiding finasteride and RU58841. They are also contemplating a hair transplant and exploring the resilience of transplanted hair without finasteride.