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The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, focusing on the use of topical minoxidil, microneedling, finasteride, and dutasteride, while debating the role of testosterone and DHT in hair loss. It also touches on the potential liver health impacts of these treatments and the genetic sensitivity of hair follicles to androgens.

A 17-year-old is concerned that taking finasteride might affect facial bone growth and is considering switching to topical finasteride due to its reduced systemic effects. They are also using oral minoxidil and exploring other hair loss treatments like microneedling and ketoconazole shampoo.

A 16 year old's experience with using pyrilutamide to treat hair loss, and the potential side effects of adding tretinoin to minoxidil and finasteride treatments.

CRISPR treatments for blood disorders have been approved, leading to discussions about its potential for treating hair loss (AGA). A study showed that editing a gene related to DHT sensitivity could lead to hair regrowth, suggesting CRISPR may eventually be used for AGA, but it's expected to be expensive and not soon available.

The conversation discusses the delay in bringing FAK inhibitors and Stanford's hydrogel to market for hair transplants, with a preference for FAK inhibitors over Verteporfin due to their superior potential in preventing scarring. The user expresses frustration over the slow progress and hopes for faster development by companies like FAKnostics.

Verteporfin and FAK inhibitors being looked at as potential treatments for hair regeneration, with updates on the unofficial off-label human trial being discussed.

A human trial involving verteporfin for hair regeneration, with the results showing some regrowth of 1-2 hairs in an area where a follicular unit was extracted. The conversation also suggested that future studies should involve higher doses and more frequent injections.

User asks if spironolactone can stack with finasteride and pyrilutamide for hair loss treatment. They question why spironolactone is associated with feminizing effects, while RU/pyri/fluridil, which work similarly, are not.

The conversation discusses a patent for using topical resveratrol and melatonin to treat androgenetic alopecia (AGA) and also mentions interest in topical sulforaphane as a treatment.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

User tried oral finasteride, topical finasteride, topical dutasteride, and RU58841 but experienced side effects. They discuss upcoming treatments like clascoterone, pyrilutamide, gt20029, and KY19382 as potential options.

The conversation discusses hair loss caused by Trenbolone use, with suggestions to stop using it and consider treatments like Minoxidil, Dutasteride, and RU58841. It highlights that Minoxidil may temporarily regrow hair, but stopping Trenbolone is crucial to prevent further hair loss.

The user is concerned about high DHT levels despite using finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss, suggesting these treatments may not be effective. They plan to consult an endocrinologist and consider other antiandrogens, acknowledging potential side effects.

Anti-androgens like Finasteride, Dutasteride, Metformin, and Topical Spironolactone cause hairline recession and increased cholesterol levels. The hairline recovers after stopping the drugs.

Combining dutasteride and an aromatase inhibitor may increase testosterone levels significantly, potentially enhancing athletic performance but also posing health risks like elevated blood pressure and worsened cholesterol. The user is experimenting with dutasteride, anastrozole, minoxidil, and ketoconazole shampoo to manage hair loss and estradiol levels, while monitoring side effects and hormone levels.

The conversation discusses whether finasteride would still be necessary if Verteporfin becomes a successful hair loss treatment. It also explores the sensitivity of transplanted hair to DHT and the potential for off-label use of Verteporfin post hair transplant.

Finasteride and dutasteride have potential risks, including post-finasteride syndrome, but are commonly used for hair loss. RU58841, minoxidil, and needling are suggested as alternatives, though all treatments carry risks.

The potential of using Verteporfin to prevent hair loss scars and possible regrowth, with two doctors currently testing it, although the price of a 15mg bottle is expensive.

Clascoterone is considered overhyped and not as effective as finasteride or dutasteride, but it may be useful as a supportive treatment in combination with other therapies. Users express skepticism about its effectiveness compared to clinical trials, with some suggesting it could be beneficial for those who cannot tolerate other treatments.

The conversation discusses the idea of naturally lowering testosterone levels to potentially reduce DHT and help with hair loss, though it is speculative and not tested by the original poster. Participants suggest using treatments like finasteride, dutasteride, or RU58841 instead, as they directly target DHT without reducing testosterone.

How androgens, including testosterone, can cause hair follicles to miniaturize in people with sensitivity to androgens, and treatments such as finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, RU58841, or fluridil may be used in combination for long-term treatment.

The conversation discusses concerns about starting finasteride with low testosterone levels, with one person suggesting finasteride might increase testosterone and decrease DHT, and another advising to pay attention to thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) levels.

Tretinoin can make minoxidil more effective for hair loss treatment, but some users did not see improved hair density with this combination and had better results with dutasteride.

The conversation discusses using B6 and Zinc to inhibit 5ar activity, similar to Fin and Dut. Minoxidil is mentioned as a supplementary treatment.

User discusses verteporfin for hair regrowth through "super microneedling" and preventing scarring. They mention a case of an old man regrowing hair after a head injury and suggest verteporfin could recreate this result.

Verteporfin is being explored for its potential to improve hair transplant outcomes by reducing scarring and increasing donor hair follicles. There is skepticism about the results, with some claiming misleading presentation of evidence.

A child accidentally took Avodart, leading to concerns about DHT suppression and its effects. Users humorously discuss potential consequences and treatments like DHT injections and topical solutions.

Finasteride does not significantly affect muscle gains and can slightly increase testosterone levels. Creatine is generally considered safe to use with finasteride, though some believe it may increase DHT levels, potentially affecting hair loss.

New treatments for AGA are emerging, including pyrilutumide, gt0029, scube3, kx-826, and pp405. Verteporfin is mentioned as a promising option.

Betacarotene's effect on hair loss is discussed, with concerns about excessive vitamin A. The user also questions if 15mg melatonin impacts vitamin A levels.