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Finasteride and dutasteride may increase estrogen levels, leading to water retention and a fuller face. Users discuss managing these effects with lifestyle changes and supplements like zinc and DIM.

Hair loss, Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 as potential treatments for it.

A user is considering Spironolactone for hair loss but is advised against it due to its effects on testosterone. Instead, they are recommended to try finasteride at 18 and consider dutasteride if needed.

A user discovered they have naturally low DHT levels and is concerned about taking finasteride, which could further lower these levels. They are seeking advice on whether to proceed with the treatment given their hormone levels are within the normal range.

GT20029 is a topical treatment that degrades androgen receptors to prevent hair thinning and loss, potentially offering fewer side effects than systemic treatments like finasteride. Concerns include its impact on hair texture and potential systemic effects, with market availability speculated in 3 to 5 years.

A 25-year-old male experiencing hair loss suspects stress-related alopecia and is hesitant to use Minoxidil due to potential side effects. Another user suggests it might be androgenic alopecia and recommends starting finasteride.

The user successfully overcame finasteride side effects by lowering the dosage and adding zinc and vitamin B6 supplements. They also micro-dosed dutasteride and resumed weight lifting.

A 27-year-old male with diffuse hair loss, including the donor area, did not respond to finasteride, dutasteride, or minoxidil. He suspects his hair loss may be linked to a mild connective tissue disorder, possibly affecting the structural support of hair follicles, rather than being purely hormonal.

Creatine may increase DHT levels, potentially causing hair loss in some people, though experiences vary. Treatments like finasteride or minoxidil are suggested to manage potential hair loss.

TDM-105795 showed promising hair growth results, with higher efficacy than placebo and minimal side effects. It activates dormant hair follicle stem cells and may maintain gains without immediate loss, unlike minoxidil.

A user has been taking finasteride 1mg for 10 years without side effects but is concerned about high estradiol levels affecting weight loss. Another user suggests using estradiol blockers under medical supervision to manage the levels.

The conversation discusses whether creatine causes hair loss for those using finasteride or dutasteride, with some suggesting creatine might increase DHT or upregulate androgen receptors, potentially leading to hair loss. Others argue the evidence is not conclusive, citing limited studies and personal anecdotes, with some avoiding creatine as a precaution.

Vitamin D supplementation may have led to slight hair regrowth and density improvement. Other treatments discussed include finasteride, minoxidil, and maintaining optimal vitamin D levels.

The conversation discusses using Botox to treat male pattern baldness, suggesting it may promote hair growth by increasing scalp blood flow and oxygen, reducing dihydrotestosterone levels. The user wonders why this treatment is not widely discussed or if it has been discredited.

A 19-year-old male experienced significant hair loss, initially thought to be male pattern baldness (MPB), and used minoxidil and briefly finasteride. After realizing the issue was telogen effluvium (TE), he improved his diet and supplemented with vitamins, which led to substantial hair regrowth.

The user experienced significant hair loss after extended fasting, initially thought to be Telogen Effluvium, but later suspected male pattern baldness. They tried finasteride briefly but stopped due to concerns about side effects, and are unsure if the hair loss is due to Telogen Effluvium or another cause.

A 23-year-old has been using finasteride, dutasteride, and spironolactone to combat hair loss and hormonal acne, with mixed results and concerns about side effects. The user is experimenting with spironolactone despite its potential risks, hoping for skin and body hair improvements.

Dutasteride works for most men, but some may experience worsening due to reasons like shedding, paranoia, non-androgenic alopecia, genetic variations, or smoking. Smoking can increase scalp DHT levels and damage follicles.

An 18-year-old experiencing hair loss and seborrheic dermatitis has tried finasteride, dutasteride, and various shampoos without success. They are considering anti-androgens like RU58841 and KX-826 for oil control and dandruff reduction.

Zinc picolinate and saw palmetto may lower DHT but are less effective than finasteride. Finasteride and minoxidil are preferred treatments, with ketoconazole shampoo as a suggested addition.

The conversation discusses the theory that scalp fibrosis contributes to male pattern baldness (MPB) by increasing DHT concentration, and mentions treatments like Minoxidil. The user seeks opinions on the theory and the effectiveness of scalp massages.

Increasing dutasteride to 2.5 mg daily and adding 2.5 mg oral minoxidil to prevent hair loss during a testosterone cycle. Suggestions include adding RU58841 for better protection against hair loss.

Increasing IGF-1 may help hair growth, but it could also increase hair loss in people with high testosterone. Treatments discussed include l-arginine, glutamine, vanadium, Deer Antler Velvet, ATP, Cocarboxylase, l-carnitine, and Mk677.

A 23-year-old is experiencing hair loss, primarily at the top middle of the head, and is considering finasteride but is hesitant due to potential side effects. Other users share their positive experiences with finasteride, suggesting it is worth trying, while also discussing the importance of researching and monitoring for any side effects.

Bicalutamide blocks androgen receptors, preventing testosterone and DHT from binding, which can help with hair loss but may cause feminization. It is not recommended for those who do not want feminization effects.

Hair loss treatments Fin and Minoxidil failed for user. Suggested alternatives are 75mg oral spiro and RU58841, but concerns about low testosterone and self-esteem were raised.

The conversation discusses the effectiveness of anti-androgens for hair loss, with a preference for topical treatments like RU58841 over oral options due to better scalp concentration and fewer side effects. Topical finasteride at 0.1% may provide some results, especially when combined with a topical androgen receptor antagonist like RU58841.

The conversation is about disappointment with pyrilutamide's performance as a hair loss treatment, with some users expressing interest in other treatments like Verteporfin, GT20029, and RU58841, while others suggest sticking with established treatments like finasteride or dutasteride.

The conversation lists hair loss treatments including finasteride, dutasteride, RU58841, pyrilutamide, breezula, and fluridil, and suggests ketoconazole as another option. Some users warn against using certain treatments like cyproterone acetate, bicalutamide, and spironolactone due to their strong anti-androgen effects and potential impact on masculinity.

Dutasteride is more effective than finasteride, has neuroprotective benefits, and may prevent acne. Despite initial concerns about metabolic effects, further research suggests it is safe for most users, especially if not hypogonadal.