17-alpha-estradiol may work for hair loss by inhibiting 5-alphareductase, similar to finasteride. It might lower testosterone in the scalp, reducing DHT conversion.
The discussion is about whether to continue reducing finasteride dosage with already low DHT levels. Treatments mentioned include minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
Oral dutasteride is the most effective for hair regrowth, followed by oral finasteride and minoxidil. Topical finasteride combined with minoxidil is recommended for those avoiding systemic DHT reduction.
How Finasteride and Dutasteride help reduce hair loss by reducing the amount of DHT in scalp areas, as well as discussing factors such as sensitivity to DHT, 5α-reductase expression in different parts of the hair follicle, and scalp tension.
The conversation discusses whether to use finasteride for hair loss, considering its role in inhibiting DHT and 5AR, which can affect brain function and mood. Some users report anxiety and depression from finasteride, while others do not experience these side effects and emphasize the importance of DHT for brain and prostate health.
The conversation discusses maintaining hair regrowth using minoxidil and finasteride and whether using gt20029, which degrades androgen receptors, would affect this. Fluridil, a similar treatment, can disable over 90% of active androgen receptors.
The user has low testosterone and DHT levels and is considering taking finasteride for Norwood 2 hair loss with diffuse thinning. They are seeking advice on whether low DHT indicates high sensitivity to DHT in the scalp and opinions on their lab values.
Minoxidil may inhibit androgen receptors and affect hormonal pathways, potentially explaining its effectiveness in treating androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Users discuss its varying effectiveness on scalp versus facial hair and note fewer side effects with topical use compared to oral.
The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.
Hair loss is linked to cellular physiology and the IGF-1 to TGF-B1 ratio, not just androgen sensitivity. The theory lacks evidence, while finasteride and minoxidil are effective treatments.
Fluridil degrades androgen receptors, which are prevalent in the scalp and other tissues. People with androgenetic alopecia (AGA) may have higher expression of these receptors and 5AR activity in affected scalp areas.
The conversation discusses reducing scalp DHT to prevent hair loss, with a focus on using dutasteride, finasteride, and other treatments like RU58841 and minoxidil. It highlights the challenges of managing hair loss while on high testosterone levels, suggesting that dutasteride may be more effective than finasteride in such cases.
GT20029 is a topical treatment that degrades androgen receptors to prevent hair thinning and loss, potentially offering fewer side effects than systemic treatments like finasteride. Concerns include its impact on hair texture and potential systemic effects, with market availability speculated in 3 to 5 years.
A user's experience with using 5AR inhibitors (Finasteride and Dutasteride) in combination with Minoxidil foam and microneedling, which resulted in substantial improvements to their crown density and hairline, despite high systemic levels of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone.
The user is taking 2.5 mg dutasteride and 5% minoxidil but is not seeing hair regrowth, and is considering adding RU58841. They are experiencing fatigue and low MCV/MCH, possibly related to dutasteride, and are advised to be patient, consider microneedling, and check for iron deficiency.
Finasteride helps with hair loss by lowering DHT levels in the scalp, which is more important than blood DHT levels. If finasteride is not effective, consulting a doctor or considering switching to dutasteride may be advisable.
The user is experiencing diffuse androgenic alopecia and is trying various treatments, including 5mg finasteride, loniten, and Formula 82D, which contains dutasteride, a steroid, and tretinoin. They report potential regrowth with Formula 82D, despite previous treatments being ineffective.
Androgenetic alopecia is affected by scalp DHT levels, not sensitivity, with treatments like finasteride and dutasteride aiming to optimize these levels. Personalized DHT management is crucial for effective hair growth.
Dutasteride at 2.5 mg/day reduces scalp DHT by 80%, while 0.5 mg/day reduces it by 50%, with minimal difference in side effects. Users often combine it with finasteride, RU58841, and minoxidil for better hair loss management, though side effects like dry skin and pimples are noted.
Finasteride and Dutasteride block DHT, which is needed for vellus hair to become terminal on the beard but not on the scalp. The user considered using DHT cream but learned it's unnecessary for scalp hair.
The conversation discusses the use of topical finasteride for hair loss, with the user considering whether oral finasteride might be more effective in reducing DHT levels. Other users suggest alternatives like dutasteride, RU58841, saw palmetto, and a combination of Redensyl, Procapil, and Capixyl, while debating the effectiveness and side effects of these treatments.
A 27-year-old male with Norwood grade 5 hair loss is using dutasteride and a hair serum with Redensyl, Anagain, Procapil, and Capilia Longa, but is hesitant to use oral minoxidil due to past allergic reactions to topical minoxidil. He plans to try dutasteride alone for 3 months before considering adding oral minoxidil.
Dutasteride is associated with increased blood glucose, HbA1c, LDL cholesterol, and liver enzyme activity, potentially leading to diabetes, NAFLD, and liver metabolism changes. The conversation highlights concerns about these adverse effects and calls for more studies, including on finasteride.
User considers adding Alfatradiol to their topical finasteride treatment for hair loss. Others discuss Alfatradiol as a weak estrogen and 5α-reductase inhibitor used for pattern hair loss in men and women.
The post discusses a user's hair loss treatment involving Dutasteride 2.5 mg 5 times per week, Finasteride 1mg 4 times per week, RU58841 daily, and Minoxidil twice daily. A reply suggests that the combination is excessive, particularly the use of both Dutasteride and Finasteride, and labels it as a "chemical castration protocol".
The conversation discusses the mechanism of action of alfatradiol (17 alpha estradiol) in treating hair loss. It explores theories that it either inhibits 5alphareductase to prevent T->DHT conversion or aromatizes scalp T into 17-alpha-estradiol to save hair.
The impact of creatine on DHT levels, and whether it could cause accelerated male pattern baldness (MPB). The user taking a 5alphareductase inhibitor found that their DHT levels actually reduced despite taking creatine for nine weeks. Replies suggested looking into testosterone levels as well and debating the safety of creatine use in relation to MPB.
Saw palmetto, a 5-alphareductase inhibitor, caused unexpected side effects like breast changes and altered semen consistency, which resolved after stopping its use. Concerns about similar side effects with finasteride or dutasteride were expressed, and another user reported low libido and depression from saw palmetto.
A user reported using a topical hair loss treatment containing Minoxidil, Dutasteride, and other ingredients, noting a significant drop in DHT levels and a smaller decrease in testosterone after three months. They also mentioned microneedling, feeling fine with unchanged or increased libido, and taking Cialis as a preventative measure for performance issues.
A 25-year-old is using 1.25mg finasteride six times a week and 5% topical minoxidil daily for hair loss. They are experiencing reduced libido and erectile issues, possibly due to stress, and are questioning if the finasteride dosage is affecting DHT suppression.