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The conversation is about finding effective hair loss treatments without using finasteride or dutasteride. Suggested treatments include topical minoxidil, oral minoxidil, microneedling, PRP, and RU58841.

Phase II for TDM-105795 for Androgenic Alopecia is set to begin in April 2023. The study aims to evaluate the efficacy and safety of TDM-105795 in male subjects.

The impact of creatine on DHT levels, and whether it could cause accelerated male pattern baldness (MPB). The user taking a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor found that their DHT levels actually reduced despite taking creatine for nine weeks. Replies suggested looking into testosterone levels as well and debating the safety of creatine use in relation to MPB.

The conversation is about the lack of improvement in hair loss after using Pyrilutamide for 14 weeks, with the original poster unable to use Finasteride due to depression. Replies suggest that Pyrilutamide, like RU58841, may not work for everyone, and a more potent drug is being developed by Kintor.

A user shared their hair loss treatment plan using Revita tablets, Sulforaphane, Minoxidil, and microneedling, avoiding finasteride due to side effects. Replies suggest that without finasteride, the plan is unlikely to be effective, and recommend either using finasteride or shaving their head.

A potential new treatment for hair loss, Pyrilutamide, and the discussion of whether or not people should still be taking traditional treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride with it.

Dutasteride is associated with increased blood glucose, HbA1c, LDL cholesterol, and liver enzyme activity, potentially leading to diabetes, NAFLD, and liver metabolism changes. The conversation highlights concerns about these adverse effects and calls for more studies, including on finasteride.

Breezula, a topical treatment, is anticipated to be available in the US by mid-2027 as a potential alternative to finasteride with fewer systemic side effects. There is ongoing debate about its effectiveness and some users report similar side effects to finasteride.

The user has been using finasteride and topical minoxidil for 15 months but is experiencing constant hair shedding, similar to telogen effluvium, despite stable widow peaks. They have checked for vitamin and mineral deficiencies, consulted specialists, and are considering further investigation like a scalp biopsy.

Finasteride and Dutasteride do not cause depression or mood disorders; hair loss itself may be a more significant factor. Some users experience side effects from Finasteride, but it is generally well-tolerated.

A clean diet, including cutting sugar, gluten, and dairy, improved hair health and reduced shedding for a user on oral minoxidil and finasteride, but reverting to an old diet worsened hair condition. While diet impacts hair health, genetic factors and treatments like topical ketoconazole and hydrocortisone are also important for managing hair loss.

Creatine may accelerate genetic hair loss, but stopping it can reverse the effects. Finasteride helps block DHT, and some users report no issues taking both daily.

A 28-year-old woman is struggling with Female Pattern Baldness and has tried various treatments, including Minoxidil and Spironolactone, without success. She feels frustrated with doctors' responses and is considering alternative treatments like light therapy but is losing hope in finding a solution.

A user has been treating hair loss with finasteride for two years without success and is experiencing an itchy scalp with seborrhea. Despite low DHT levels, they are still losing hair, suggesting that DHT might not be the main cause of their hair loss, and they are considering other treatments or causes.

Hair loss discussion mentions treatments like Finasteride, Dutasteride, and Minoxidil. Users share experiences, side effects, and advice on using these treatments.

The user experienced worse hair after removing a wig system and has been using Hairband 82 Comfort Flex, Hair Max supplements, dermarolling, and a scalp massager for 4 months without clear results. They are hesitant to use Minoxidil due to shedding concerns and avoid finasteride due to side effects, preferring Saw Palmetto instead.

The conversation discusses why CB-03-01, a potential hair loss treatment, isn't widely discussed despite evidence of its effectiveness and safety. Some users mention other treatments like melatonin, procianidin b2, and RU58841, debating their effectiveness and safety.

A 26-year-old male experienced positive results using 1mg Finasteride daily and 2% ketoconazole shampoo for hair loss, with reduced shedding and scalp itch. He reported no significant side effects and recommends early treatment for those in the initial stages of hair loss.

The user is experiencing continued hair loss despite using finasteride, dutasteride, and minoxidil, and is advised to improve diet, check for deficiencies, and consider other treatments like microneedling. Suggestions include sticking with the current regimen, considering a hair transplant, or accepting hair loss and shaving.

Minoxidil may inhibit androgen receptors and affect hormonal pathways, potentially explaining its effectiveness in treating androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Users discuss its varying effectiveness on scalp versus facial hair and note fewer side effects with topical use compared to oral.

The conversation discusses skepticism about the effectiveness of scalp tension theory and scalp massagers for hair regrowth, contrasting it with treatments like finasteride and minoxidil, which have more user-reported results. Participants question the belief in scalp tension theory, suggesting it may be a marketing tactic, while others argue for a multifactorial approach to hair loss.

Switching from finasteride to dutasteride led to hair loss despite continued use of minoxidil. Many recommend reintroducing finasteride, as responses to treatments can vary.

An 18-year-old is using a high-dose hair loss treatment regimen including finasteride, minoxidil, dutasteride, and plans to add RU58841 and bimatoprost, despite warnings from others about the risks. The user is determined to reverse hair loss but acknowledges the potential dangers and does not recommend others follow their approach.

The user is considering adding topical dutasteride and increasing their oral minoxidil dose to 5mg, and is currently using oral finasteride, oral and topical minoxidil, derma stamping, tretinoin, and nizoral as part of their hair loss treatment regimen.

A 16-year-old is experiencing severe hair thinning and wants to start finasteride but is advised to wait until at least 20. In the meantime, minoxidil is suggested as an alternative.

The user lost gym motivation after taking finasteride for four months, possibly due to its effect on DHT levels. Suggestions include adjusting dosage, trying topical treatments, using caffeine, checking testosterone levels, and considering supplements like SSRIs or pregnenolone.

Red light therapy has shown promising results in hair regrowth for the user, who avoids minoxidil and finasteride due to side effects. The user follows a healthy lifestyle with diet, exercise, and sauna use, and will continue monitoring the therapy's effectiveness.

Finasteride and dutasteride are discussed as preventative treatments for hair loss, with some advocating for early use and others concerned about side effects, especially before full maturity. Many regret not starting these treatments earlier due to their effectiveness in preventing or slowing hair loss.

The conversation discusses alternative and unorthodox hair loss treatments, including RU58841, nandrolone, and dianabol, as well as theoretical approaches involving high doses of estrogen and selective estrogen receptor modulators. These methods are considered extreme and potentially harmful but are explored for those unable to tolerate traditional 5-alpha reductase inhibitors.

The user is taking 2.5 mg dutasteride and 5% minoxidil but is not seeing hair regrowth, and is considering adding RU58841. They are experiencing fatigue and low MCV/MCH, possibly related to dutasteride, and are advised to be patient, consider microneedling, and check for iron deficiency.